X-Message-Number: 5001 From: (Thomas Donaldson) Subject: Re: CryoNet #4986 - #4989 Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 13:41:56 -0700 (PDT) To John Clark: Yes, Mike does suffer from a comparative lack of mathematics. When he says he sees turbulence, it won't necessarily be what a fluid dynamicist thinks of as turbulence. HOWEVER he was reporting observations. He was not telling about theories. And of all cryonicists, Mike has the most experience with events that occur when someone is ACTUALLY FROZEN, as distinct from the theories of cryonics, nanotechnology, and so on and on. If Mike tells what he saw, I would think you would believe him -- not that he would use the same language as you, but you would be willing to think carefully about such things as: what could he be seeing that makes him think of turbulence? To try to bring up lots of theory as a counter to Mike's OBSERVATIONS just isn't right. Not ever, not at all. Long long life, Thomas Donaldson Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=5001