X-Message-Number: 5134
From:  (David L Evens)
Newsgroups: sci.cryonics
Subject: Re: Beyond 2000 and Mind Uploading
Date: 5 Nov 1995 21:40:37 GMT
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Anders Sandberg () wrote:
: David L Evens wrote:
: >The reason why MRIs are of limited resolution is we can only extract 
: >limited ammounts of data from the signal (since there is substantial 
: >noise and computing power is finite).  I expect that by the time we can 
: >build a computer powerful enough to upload to that would be cheap enough 
: >for individuals to actually afford, we will probably be able to build an 
: >NMRI system capable of extracting the neccessary data.

: But isn't the resolution also limited by the field gradients? To get
: higher resolution you need stronger gradients, and this can become
: downright troublesome above a certain level (didn't lab rats levitate
: in fields of a few tesla?), especially since when the fields are changed
: the resulting heat could fry the brain. Hmm, that might be less of a
: problem in finding the structure of a cryonically preserved brain in
: liquid nitrogen (if we ignore the risk of additional cracks). 

My understanding is that field strength changes are performed by the use 
of radio waves.  (I have used a NM spectrometer that used a powerful 
permanent magnet for producing the field, and the principle difference 
between MNS and MRI is the method of data extraction and processing.)

The effectiveness of the instrument is measured both in terms of magnetic 
field strength, which is intended to be highly uniformly produced by the 
magnetic coils, and the intensity and precision of the radio wave pulse 
used to activate the nuclei that are to be sampled.  My impression at the 
time was that the higher an RF frequency was used, the cleaner the data 
would be, but the stronger the field required was.

There might be some problems with the energy input to the brain while the 
field is established or the brain inserted, but it should be possible to 
image with a relatively low flux of energy available for absorbtion by 
the brain, if enough time is taken in the imaging process.  Certainly, a 
frozen brain is going to be arround for as long as you care to take, so 
extremely low flux rates can be used to get the data without damaging the 
brain. 

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