X-Message-Number: 5314 From: Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 11:19:24 -0500 Subject: doing right Peter Merel (#5304), Mike Perry (#5308) and Keith Lynch (#5310) had some amusing and/or interesting things to say about "reality" vs. virtual reality and about motivations of cryonicists and those who may revive them. To reiterate a couple of quick points: 1. Donaldson's distinction between a real and a simulated or virtual environment is valid, even if the "real" environment as we perceive it, filtered through our senses and mental processing, is very different from the objective world we postulate. Degrees of potential deception or misperception are important. Failure to understand this leads to aberrations such as "moral relativism," "do your own thing," and generally "hanging loose." Only the tight-asses have the best chance of making it. (Of course, it is also true that maybe NOBODY will make it, and the loose-hangers will have had more fun before the bell tolls. That's one of the chances you take. But tight-asses don't have to be grim all the time either.) 2. Again, most people--almost everyone who counts, in fact--have effectively thrown in the towel and abandoned the ancient goal of finding the RIGHT path; it is almost universally agreed among scientists and "intellectuals" that individual values at bottom are arbitrary and not susceptible of objective evaluation. In contrast, I believe that impending knowledge of our basic biology can permit rigorous derivation of optimum life plans--and, further, that PRESENT knowledge permits a worldview much more profitable and reliable than any presently popular. Robert Ettinger Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=5314