X-Message-Number: 5458 From: Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 11:22:02 -0500 Subject: rejoinders A couple of small rejoinders to John Clark's # 5457: 1. This is very minor, but it isn't true that any trait we have must be favored by evolution. It could have been favored in just one small space-time interval, and then persisted for a while; or it could be just an accident, or an accidental adjunct of something else that is more important in some sense. 2. I noted that the self circuit or subjective circuit (SC) might be favored by evolution because it provides an efficient means of categorizing and prioritizing inputs and outputs, thus saving brain weight or/and power consumption or/and reaction time. John said that, in this case, it would be harder to build a non-conscious system than a conscious one. Surely this does not follow. It is almost always easier (quicker and simpler) to build clumsy and inefficient devices than elegant ones. If this were not the case, our first attempts would always be the best, and nothing would ever be improved. Robert Ettinger Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=5458