X-Message-Number: 547.2 To: Message-Subject: patent medicines/FDA Date: Sun, 17 Nov 91 1:55:06 PST From: Eli Brandt <> I am currently researching the history of the patent medicine industry in the US (uof course, most of the literature is heavily regulatory). This would be an opportune time to work in some slams at the good ol' Federal Death Administration. Does anybody have 1) a reasonable history of the LEF screwage, and/or 2) other anti-social behavior which the FDA is or has been engaged in, preferable with some kind of references? Oh, and has anybody seen a decent cost/benefit analysis of the FDA? I've seen much speculation on development lag vs. protecting-the-idiot-consumer, but no hard numbers. Or whatever the equivalent is in the social sciences. Eli To: Date: Sun, 17 Nov 91 11:26:03 CST From: (Tom W. Bell) Message-Subject: Evidence against FDA >...has anybody seen a decent cost/benefit analysis of the FDA? >Eli Here's something you may find useful: in "A Review of the Record," REGULATION, (November/December 1986): 25-34, the author John F. Morrall III compares 44 proposed, final, or rejected federal rules aimed at reducing risks of death by looking to their costs per life saved. He puts his results in a table on p 30. The only FDA regulation to appear on the list appears far down the list (it WAS finalized and regulates DES in cattlefeed). It has the WORST cost/benefit ratios of ANY of the finalized rules he reviews. All those with lower such ratios (and many with better ones) were wisely rejected (with the exception of a few still under consideration at the time he wrote the article). Morrall estimates that this FDA regulation saves 68 lives per annum at a cost of $132,000,000/life. Is this a good trade-off? Morrall cites 16 careful studies estimating individual willingness to pay for risk reduction. "The estimates vary from about $400,000 to about $9.7 million per life saved, with a mean estimate of $3.3 million and a median estimate of $1.7 million." Id at 34. This indicates that the FDA's regulations diverge from individual preferences by a couple of orders of magnitude. This isn't to say that the FDA hasn't proposed dumber things. It once tried to ban the cosmetic coloring Orange No. 17 to avert a calculated risk of death of 1 in 10 billion. The regulation was projected to save one life in 2,000 years. Id at 29. --TWB Tom W. Bell To: From: more% (Max More) Message-Subject: FDA & Saul Kent in LONGEVITY Date: Sun, 17 Nov 91 15:08:52 PST The November 1991 issue of Longevity has a reasonable article on Saul Kent's struggle with the FDA. They quote both sides, but Saul comes out looking good IMO. The Fascist Death Administrators won't be satisfied until all health food stores, drug companies, and publishers of information on drugs and nutrients have been nationalized and put under the FDA's monopoly control. Max More To: From: more% (Max More) Message-Subject: Re: Costs of the FDA Date: Sun, 17 Nov 91 15:25:12 PST > Death Administration. Does anybody have 1) a reasonable history of the LEF > screwage, and/or 2) other anti-social behavior which the FDA is or has been > engaged in, preferable with some kind of references? > > Oh, and has anybody seen a decent cost/benefit analysis of the FDA? I've > > Eli > One good source is Durk Pearson and Sandy Shaw's Life Extension, pp.564-598. They quote a sizable chunk of the study by economist Sam Peltzmann, "Regulation of Pharmaceutical Innovation" (American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research, 1974). Also see ch.7 of Free to Choose by Milton and Rose Friedman. The Peltzman study can also be found in Regulating New Drugs, R.L. Landau, ed., (University of Chicago for Policy Studies, Chicago, Illinois) and in the Journal of Political Economy, pp.1049-1091, Sept-Oct 1973. Max More To: Date: Sun, 17 Nov 91 7:20:28 GMT From: The latest issue of Reason magazine has a good article on the current head of the FDA, characterizing him as an Elliot Ness type - a stickler for the law, prohibitionist, careerist, etc. It might be good ammo for protesting the imprisonment of the LEF founders. Fight the good fight! Tim Starr To: Date: 17 Nov 91 22:50:40 EST From: "Russell E. Whitaker" <> Message-Subject: I sent *my* letter... 18 Nov 371 I've just sent *my* letter to the U.S. Attorney's office in Florida. I sent a heavily modified version of the letter Kevin Brown sent, CRYOMSG 547.1. If anyone else uses that letter, make note of this: 1.) The date should be changed. 2.) Change "The Foundation" to "the Foundation" 3.) Tone down the letter slightly; make it a little less personal. You'll know where to do that if you read a raw copy. 4.) I personally find it a little offensive to address the Att'y as "Dear Mr. Lehtinen", especially where a direct "Mr. Lehtinen" would suffice. I'm sending mine CompuServe fax now, so that it will be waiting on the fax machine of Lehtinen's office when he arrives for work this morning (it's 4:00 A.M. here in London). Anyone else here have trouble getting immediate access to a fax machine? If so, and you can get your letter by email to me within a few hours, I will forward the letter on my CIS account, free to you. Take me up on my offer: it costs me $0.75/page, and I won't offer again. Let's get those letters out! Russell E. Whitaker Communications Editor EXTROPY: The Journal of Transhumanist Thought Distribution: Extropians >INTERNET: Alcor >INTERNET: To: From: more% (Max More) Message-Subject: Saul released but in trouble Date: Sun, 17 Nov 91 23:12:01 PST Update: Apparently Saul made bail and is now free. However, all the work is still to be done. Just don't include a "Free Saul and Bill" in your letters! Max To: From: (David Lubkin) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 91 13:47:26 EST Message-Subject: FDA I forwarded Keith's message about LEF/FDA to some local mailing lists, and now some locals are attacking his statements about the FDA. I'd like to substantiate his claims that the FDA is a bunch of bullies that have caused millions to die needlessly, but I'm having trouble finding any of the dozens of pieces I've read on the subject (moving will do that to you). Does anyone have anything on line they can send me -- articles, postings, or bibliographies/references ? I'm especially looking for a piece about how thalidomide was a good drug that should never have been banned, just kept away from pregnant women. Two people specifically cited thalidomide as an example of how wonderful the FDA is. -- David. ------- To: Message-Subject: Re: FDA Date: Mon, 18 Nov 91 23:57:25 PST From: Eli Brandt <> > I forwarded Keith's message about LEF/FDA to some local mailing lists, > and now some locals are attacking his statements about the FDA. I'd like The obvious argumentative tactic would be to postulate a "non-binding" FDA. While this is suboptimal to an anarchist, it forces your opponents to retreat into naked paternalism, without bringing things like the *market* into the discussion. > postings, or bibliographies/references ? I'm especially looking for a > piece about how thalidomide was a good drug that should never have been > banned, just kept away from pregnant women. Two people specifically cited > thalidomide as an example of how wonderful the FDA is. You *are* in luck. While rummaging through some of the references that people here gave me (I'll summarize in a week or two if there's interest), I ran across a reference to thalidomide. Seems it's useful in the treatment of leprosy, as well as being a possibly-useful tranquilizer. Look in _Regulation_, Nov/Dec '86, in the article before the one containing page 30. If you can't find this, e-mail me and I'lltrack it down again. > -- David. > Eli Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=547.2