X-Message-Number: 5481 From: Peter Merel <> Subject: Happy New Year? Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 17:43:51 +1100 (EST) I found the following in talk.environment. I'm curious about how people here feel about it. If Hanson is right to think of "global systems collapse" occurring around 2020-2030, perhaps we should pay more attention to where and how to ride out the storm? Or are there good reasons to think that nanotech will flower before this? Is 2020-2030 too pessimistic? Opinions? -- >From: (Jay Hanson) >Newsgroups: talk.environment >Subject: Re: Population growth. >Date: 13 Dec 1995 03:41:52 GMT [...] I don't think there is any way to avoid die-off and possibly even die-out. I have three different sources -- using three different methods and data sets -- that point to worldwide systems collapse around the year 2020 or 2030: _ #1 Meadows, et al. project a "business as usual" scenario that see our major systems failing around year 2020 [p. 133]. Remember, these are worldwide systems -- there is no escape. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ It is interesting to note the latest ozone depletion and global warming data was not available to the models. Perhaps the models would project collapse even quicker? Meadows, et al., 1992: BEYOND THE LIMITS -- Chelsea Green Publishing Company, Lebanon, NH; 800-639-4099, 603-448-0317, Fax 603-448-2576 _ #2 My second reference is from Worldwatch and concerns that fact that there will simply not be enough food on the planet to feed humanity by year 2030. Starving humans will follow starving deer and devour their own life-support system. See: WHO WILL FEED CHINA?, Worldwatch Institute 1776 Massachusetts Ave., NW, Washington, DC 20036 Tel: 202/452-1999 Fax: 202/296-7365 Also see FULL HOUSE by Worldwatch and DWELLERS IN THE LAND, by Kirkpatrick Sale, 1991, New Society Pub. 800-253-3605 ISBN 0-86571-225-5 OVERSHOOT by Catton, 1982, University of Illinois Press, 800-545-4703, Fax 217-244-8082 BEYOND OIL, by Gever, et al., 1991, University Press of Colorado, 800-268-6044 or 303-530-5337 #3 My third reference posits approximately the same time frame "before destroying the functional integrity of the ecosphere". In this case, I think that the underlying studies here were scientific analyses of the global carbon cycle (I may be wrong, I am not an ecologist). And remember folks, when the ecosphere goes, everything goes. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - "Investing in Natural Capital: The Ecological Approach to Sustainability" from the International Society for Ecological Economics http://kabir.umd.edu/ISEE/ISEEhome.html HOW CLOSE TO PRACTICAL LIMITS? "There is accumulating evidence that humanity my soon have to confront the real carrying capacity constraints. For example, nearly 40% of terrestrial net primary productivity (photosynthesis) is already being used ("appropriated") by humans, one species among millions, and this fraction is steadily increasing (Vitousek et al. 1986). If we take this percentage as an index of the human carrying capacity of the earth and assume that a growing economy could come to appropriate 80% of photosynthetic production before destroying the functional integrity of the ecosphere, the earth will effectively go from half to completely full within the next doubling period -- currently about 35 years (Daly 1991). "The significance of this unprecedented convergence of economic scale with that of the ecosphere is not generally appreciated in the current debate on sustainable development. Because the human impact on critical functions of the ecosphere is not uniform "effective fullness" may actually occur may actually occur well before the next doubling of human activity. (Liebig's law reminds us that is takes only a single critical limiting factor to constrain the entire system.) Indeed, data presented in this chapter suggests that long-term human carrying capacity may already have been at less than the present 40% preemption of photosynthesis. If so, even current consumption (throughput) cannot be sustained indefinitely, and further material growth can be purchased only with accelerated depletion of remaining natural capital stocks. "This conundrum can be illustrated another way by extrapolation from our ecological footprint data. If the entire world population of 5.6 billion were to use productive land at the rate of our Vancouver/Lower Fraser Valley example, the total requirement would be 28.5 billion ha. In fact, the total land area of Earth is only just over 13 billion ha, of which only 8.8 billion ha is productive cropland, pasture, or forest. The immediate implications are two-fold: first, as already stressed, the citizens of wealthy industrial countries unconsciously appropriate far more than their share of global carrying capacity; second, we would require an additional "two Earths," assuming present technology and efficiency levels, to provide for the present world population at Canadian's ecological standard of living. In short, there may simply not be enough natural capital around to satisfy current development assumptions. The difference between the anticipated ecological footprint of the human enterprise and the available land/natural capital base is a measure "sustainability gap" confronting humankind." [p. 383] A CAUTIONARY NOTE "We admittedly make no allowance for potentially large efficiency gains or technological advances. Even at carrying capacity, further economic growth is possible (but not necessarily desirable) if resource consumption and waste production continue to decline per unit GDP (Jacobs 1991). We should not, however, rely exclusively on this conventional rationale. New technologies require decades to achieve the market penetration needed to significantly influence negative ecological trends. Moreover,there is no assurance that savings will not simply be directed into alternative forms of consumption. Efficiency improvements may actually increase rather than decrease resource consumption (Saunders 1992). We are already at the limit in a world of rising material expectations in which the human population is increasing by 94 million people per year. The minimal food-land requirements alone each year for this number of new people is 18,800,000 ha (at 5 people/ha, the current average productivity of world agriculture) -- the equivalent of all cropland in France." [p. 386] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - THE QUOTED TEXT IS TAKEN FROM A BOOK TITLED: "Investing in Natural Capital: The Ecological Approach to Sustainability" PUBLISHED BY: The International Society for Ecological Economics http://kabir.umd.edu/ISEE/ISEEhome.html and Island Press -- 1994 http://www.islandpress.com 1-800-828-1302 or 1-707-983-6432 Fax 1-707-983-6164 EDITED BY: AnnMari Jansson, Monica Hammer, Carl Folke, and Robert Costanza The quoted text was taken from chapter # 20 which was by: William E. Rees and Mathis Wackernagel The University of British Columbia School of Community and Regional Planning 6333 Memorial Road Vancouver, BC Canada V6T 1Z2 REFERENCES: Daly, H. 1986. Comments on "Population Growth and Economic Development." Population and Development Review 12: 583-585 ------- 1990. Sustainable development: from concept and theory towards operational principles. Population and Development Review (special issue 1990) (Also published in Daly, H. 1991. Steady State Economics. 2d, ed. Washington, DC: Island Press) --------1991. From empty world economics to full world economics: recognizing an historic turning point in economic development. In Environmentally Sustainable Development: Building on Brundtland, eds. R. Goodland, H. Daly, and S. El Serafy. Washington DC: The World Bank --------1991. Steady State Economics. 2d, ed. Washington, DC: Island Press Vitousek, P., P. Ehrlich, A. Ehrlich, and P. Matson, 1986. Human appropriation of the products of photosynthesis. BioScience 36: 368-74 See also: http://newciv.org/worldtrans/whole/warning.html -- Happy New Year? Peter Merel. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=5481