X-Message-Number: 5587
From:  (Brian Wowk)
Newsgroups: sci.cryonics
Subject: Re: Don't talk about neurosuspension
Date: 13 Jan 96 00:39:22 GMT
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In <4d3eo2$> "Peter C. McCluskey" <> writes:

>Brad Templeton () writes (in <>):

>>People will tolerate the concept of freeze-thaw-wake up.  That's because
>>they don't understand it at all.  They'll buy a movie like Iceman, or
>>think it's like a steak in the freezer.   Cloning and nano to rebuild
>>bodies or artificial bodies or even downloading -- that's just way too much
>>for the public.

	I suppose the flippant reply would be, "But aren't the hundreds
of cryonicists who are already signed up for neuro part of 'the public'?"
More seriously, if my Mother was willing to go neuro, there are a LOT of
people who will go neuro if it is well explained, and they have time to
digest the idea.   

>However, I think the risk of courts deciding that
>cryonics organizations are defrauding people is more serious, since it
>is quite easy to imagine a cryonics company that doesn't care about its
>customers once they have deanimated and given it control of their money.
> In fact, I suspect that a dramatic increase in cryonics customers would
>somewhat decrease the likelyhood of reanimation, as organizations that
>currently pay low enough wages that only altruists or idealists work
>there would become dominated by people motivated more by salaries. It
>is easy to imagine bureaucrats who postpone reanimations indefinitely
>by saying that more research is needed to determine whether the
>reanimation process could more accurately restore the personality.

	This is actually a major argument in favor of "unbundling"
cryonics services, as CryoCare has done.  Long-term care funds of
CryoCare patients are held by an independent entity that is mandated
by Bylaws to disburse funds for patient care, and patient care only.
These funds are then paid directly to contractors that CryoCare hires
to perform long-term storage.  Yes, the storage contractors certainly
have an interest in keeping patients "in the can" as long as possible,
but CryoCare does not, and we decide when patients are revived.   
Patient-appointed representatives called Patient Advocates have a
say in this as well. 

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Brian Wowk          CryoCare Foundation               1-800-TOP-CARE
President           Your Gateway to the Future        
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