X-Message-Number: 5622 From: Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 10:30:02 -0500 Subject: SCI.CRYONICS neuro/Pretoria A couple of quick comments on recent "neuro vs. full" posts: 1.Cryonics Institute p.r. includes nothing evasive or shifty concerning neuro. We simply observe that we don't offer it because our minimum price for full body is already lower than that for neuro elsewhere, and we prefer to avoid a p.r. negative. 2. We don't offer neuro ourselves, but under certain agreements with other organizations we can accept neuros for storage. (None so far.) 3. Mr. Smyth seems to think it would be easier/cheaper to regenerate a new body from a neuro than to repair an old body. I strongly disagree with that. After all, even in the worst cases of senescence and disease and other damage, most of what you need is still there and most of it requires relatively minor changes to be good as new. It is really stretching things to imagine that a full replacement would be easier/quicker. Think of it from the viewpoint of a nano repair tech. 4. I have mentioned this before, but nobody has noticed. If/when we achieve reversible-on-demand suspension, then (assuming it comes soon or at any rate before full regeneration technology) nobody will want neuro as first choice, obviously. The trap here is for those neuro sign-ups (in fact all sign-ups) who have funded at a minimum level. It is going to be very sticky if we have perfect suspension available but not affordable for existing or potential members. (Of course, if perfect methods are available, perfect neuro would still be infinitely better than nothing.) 5. Reversible-on-demand may be much closer than we had recently thought. According to some of the reports, Dr. Michelle Visser in Pretoria says her methods allow "most organs" to be recovered functional from liquid nitrogen temperature, except the liver. Brain was not mentioned, and of course we must await the publication in CRYOBIOLOGY before we know anything about the methods and costs. And we may still have proprietary interests or patents involved. But the pot may be coming to a boil (I guess that's the wrong metaphor for cryonics).. Robert Ettinger Cryonics Institute Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=5622