X-Message-Number: 5793 From: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 11:06:57 -0500 Subject: Psi Mac Tonnies (#5790) says telekinesis is "firmly established as an empirical truth." Although this question has very little importance on Cryonet, I am responding briefly because I once made a very careful investigation of the literature on ESP or Psi phenomena--HOPING there was something to it. This was about 40 years ago, but similar statements were made then about the "proof" of the existence of telekinesis (psychokinesis) and other psi phenomena. In short, there was NOT anything to it, as I reluctantly concluded; and although I have not followed the literature recently, I am 99.99% sure the "proof" remains absent. Briefly, the "evidence" is of three general kinds. (1) Anecdotal, which can be powerfully convincing to individuals and difficult to answer. Mae is sure she once received a psychic message of a danger to her daughter. But people are OFTEN convinced of things that did not happen, or did not happen in the way they interpreted them. Perhaps the main thing about anecdotes is that we tend to remember the "confirming" instances and to forget the much more numerous non-confirming ones. (2) Demonstrative--"gifted" people doing tricks for an audience. Suffice it to say that these (to the best of my knowledge) NEVER hold up under the scrutiny of experts. (3) Statistical: The late Joseph Rhine at Duke was the best known purveyor of alleged statistical evidence for "paranormal" phenomena. There were several fatal weaknesses to his research: a) Some of his results were shown clearly to stem from poor experimental design, allowing conscious or unconscious cheating. b) Some of his results could owe to "optional stopping"--choosing to end the trials when you are in positive territory in the random walk. c) "Hypothesis failure." In one of the PK experiments, the subject tried to influence the fall of SEVERAL DICE SIMULTANEOUSLY. According to Rhine's analysis, the results were far beyond chance, hence the phenomenon was "proven." But Rhine apparently failed to notice that, if we acknowledge the first miracle--direct influence of mind over matter at at distance, or application of the presumably needed forces--we must also acknowledge at least one more miracle. That is the ability of that mind to ANALYZE THE TRAJECTORIES AT A GLANCE AND COMPUTE THE NEEDED FORCES! (Or else to assure the outcome without continuity of events.) d) The MAIN failure of Rhine's and similar experiments is in the assumption that, if results are strikingly "non-chance" then the "phenomenon" is proven or nearly so. Not true! If the results are strikingly and consistently "non-chance," then the only permissible conclusion (in the absence of other evidence) is that they were probably due to something other than chance. That something doesn't have to be the "phenomenon" under study; it could also be conscious or unconscious cheating or similar things. To attribute the result to Psi rather than a bad experiment, one would have to believe that the probability of a bad experiment is MUCH smaller, a priori, than the probability of the phenomenon. Sorry: As far as I can tell, every aspect of Psi remains only a dim and distant possibility. Robert Ettinger Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=5793