X-Message-Number: 5872 From: Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 12:01:28 -0500 Subject: SCI. CRYONICS bad law vs. cryonics Some fossilized barbs have been directed against cryonics in recent months from legalUK, posted there and on Sci. Cryonics & Sci. Life Extension. In view of the possibility of saving a few lives, I'll try to add my bit to the discussion from time to time. Today I'll just focus on the incredible effrontery of attacks on the cryonics/immortalist movement, which is tiny and beneficent, by members of the legal establishment, which is enormous and malignant--a running sore on the face of humanity, depleting our strength and stinking to heaven. Of course some modest qualifiers are in order. Many lawyers and judges are medium honest, in their fashion--and surprisingly honest against the historic background of pervasive corruption. Judges and lawyers have always been subject to constant opportunities and temptations for venality, and the present U.S. and U.K. systems are not bad by past standards. But that is faint praise indeed; in absolute terms, the legal profession is exceedingly backward and crammed full of thievery and bias. Let's first look at a few of the disgraces in broad terms. 1. Perhaps the least objectionable segments of the legal profession are in the clerk-assistant type functions, where the lawyer or solicitor merely helps a client navigate paperwork and deal with bureaucracies, as in drawing wills and contracts, reading real estate abstracts, etc. But even here the profession is close to the medieval guild heritage--a self-serving, self-perpetuating monopoly receiving exorbitant fees for routine and usually simple work. Some small corrections have begun, in the form of allowing paralegals to do some of the work previously restricted to attorneys. This needs to be pushed much further, and the underlying structure simplified and rationalized. 2. The whole adversary system is a medieval holdover of the bizarre concept of trial by combat of champions; whoever hires the best legal gunslinger is likely to prevail. Unlike almost any other profession, in adversarial law it is considered a mark of merit to lie, cheat, and steal on behalf of a client. Lawyers are proudest of those cases they won that had the least merit. In Michigan, and probably elsewhere, new laywers being sworn in take an oath NOT TO ACCEPT AN UNJUST CAUSE--but of course that is totally ignored under the "right" of an accused or a litigant to the most vigorous representation. Many improvements have been proposed, and some implemented to a small extent, including expansion of use of mediation and arbitration; but much more needs to be done. 3. The guild frequently protects itself at the direct expense of clients. For example, it is common in the U.S. for a husband in a divorce case to pay for both his attorney and his wife's. The wife's attorney will often submit fraudulent billing, but the judge and the husband's attorney refuse to challenge it. 4. Much of the law is fossilized, with obvious and important reforms ignored for decades or centuries. Consider the question of "admissible" evidence. In most cases e.g. the results of "lie detector" or polygraph tests are not admissible, even though there is a good statistical base for estimating reliability. On the other hand, a jury is encouraged to use the "demeanor" of a party or a witness in arriving at a judgment as to truthfulness, even though it has been well known and scientifically proven for many decades that such judgments are extremely unreliable. 5. Judges--even when they believe themselves honest, which is far from universally the case--frequently hand down rulings based on their personal prejudices rather than evidence and law. Often in effect they make law rather than interpret it, using their personal views of the social effects of the ruling. And they are freqently incompetent to understand the evidence. Corporate trial lawyers tell me their hardest problem often is to couch the argument in terms the judge can understand and to which he will pay attention. In cases such as last year's Simpson trial, typically nobody on either side, or on the bench, understands the probabilistic side of the evidence. The court conveys the impression that if a particular item of evidence against a defendant allows a reasonable doubt, that item of evidence must be ignored. But suppose there are (say) ten independent items of evidence, each indicating only a 10% probabililty of innocence, which might be construed as reasonable doubt in each individual case. Then the COLLECTIVE probability of innocence is only 10% to the tenth power, or one in 10 billion, which does NOT leave a reasonable doubt. Gross miscarriages of justice undermine the fabric of society. 6. The concept of guilt/innocence, or liable/not, needs to be replaced by a finding of PROBABILITY of guilt or liability. In effect, this sometimes happens, when we consider together both the verdict and the sentence or award; but it needs to be made explicit and unformly applied, with jurists and jurors trained in the underlying disciplines. I have shown mathematically how this would improve results, in terms of reducing miscarriages of justice. 7. Lawyers like to pretend that the law, if sometimes irrational and slow to change, is at least consistent and conservative. This is not the case. Different jurisdictions, or even the same jurisdiction at different times, may produce wildly different results in very similar cases. In a recent exchange I said something to the effect that the law does not [usually] try to dictate to a testator to whom he may make bequests; a UKlegal response was that the law does indeed impose restrictions, such as the rule against perpetuities and sometimes individual judicial restrictions. Of course: that is so obvious I didn't think it needed mentioning. Obviously, sometimes a relative will claim the testator was incompetent or unduly influenced; and sometimes a relative may claim a "right" to some of the estate based on previous relationships etc., and sometimes the court will agree. It remains true, in general, that in the U.S. and the U.K. we are free within broad limits to bequeath our money as we see fit, EVEN FRIVOLOUSLY. If bequests are permitted that are frivolous or arguably irrational, why should any court even remotely consider disallowing a cryonics bequest? 8. As noted above, most lawyers and judges are naive about science and statistics. In the exchange just mentioned, the UKlegal writer gave his basis for estimating probability of revival of a cryonics patient--and showed a near-total ignorance of the subject. What he said, in part, was that if a man can jump 1.95 m, it is reasonable to expect a jump of 2 m by someone some time; but if the existing record were 3 cm, an expectation of a future 2m would not be reasonable. This is not an apt analogy. To make a partial analogy to his analogy, consider predictions of a moon rocket in the early part of this century, when Goddard and Tsiolkovsky were advocating it. To what fraction of the distance to the moon had rockets carried people then? Zero. What fraction of the necessary computer electronics had been created then? Zero. Many "scientists" did not even realize that a reaction engine does not need an atmosphere to "push against." Yet the basics were in place--payloads and accelerations could be calculated for various fuels--and it was a reasonable assumption that the technical details would be worked out in due course. But hardly any experts recognized this at the time. We have many technical references and detailed discussions to support our position that revival of present cryostasis patients is NOT a long shot. Further and more important discussion to follow, when I get around to it. R.C.W. Ettinger Cryonics Institute Immortalist Society Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=5872