X-Message-Number: 6203
Date:  Tue, 14 May 96 10:38:34 
From: dave <>
Subject: Brenda knows him well

Pizer replies to Charles Platt 
#6199

 
> Dave Pizer suggests that it may not be a good idea for a cryonics
> organization to persuade an elderly person to switch from another cryonics
> organization, where the member's quirks and preferences are well
> understood. 
> 
> Fair enough. But Brenda Peters was doing signups when Leary joined
> CryoCare, and she knows him extremely well. 

Charles, it there any chance that Brenda could visit Timothy and see if 
she could persuade him to allow Mike back in?  And perhaps she could talk 
to Mike about not canceling the suspension.  It would be worth a try.  
Timothy is a very kind and gentle person who is worth the extra effort.

> As for the idea of Leary living at Ventureville ... this is something I
> would really love to see. 

We would all like to see this. The point is that we screwed up with the
present VentureVille is some ways as we started with a large house and one
apartment.  This type of living arrangement is not going to work.  We need
to buy or construct an apartment-type complex with other nice things like
a pool and clubhouse for people to gather.

The problem is that even if we had this it would take several years to fill 
up all the apartments and so the cash flow would be very negative during 
the first few years.  

The saving grace is that just as Alcor did very well on the building they 
became involved with, VentureVille land and house have also appreciated and 
there is a profit to be made if I sell it.  This could be rolled over to 
offset the cost of an apartment complex.   

Other cryonicists have done well in Arizona real estate. The Ettingers have 
bought a lovely home here that I feel is in an area of strong appreciation. 
The Comos family bought a commercial lot here several years ago and the 
value has tripled.

Arizona and Florida are the two best states to invest in real estate right 
now (in general).  I wish we had more resources and would have had a nice 
place to Timothy to come to.  From your description maybe he would not have 
been dropped if he had been surrounded by cryonicists rather than people 
who encourage others not to be suspended. ???

VentureVille will be for all cryonicists.  One of the controversial 
policies suggested for consideration would be a policy where terminal, 
senile cryonicist would not be left alone with friends or relatives that 
are hostile to cryonics.  

Then there is the question of what kind of legal problems the Venturists 
might have trying to enforce a policy like this.

Anyhow, until we get more money, there is no present VentureVille that can 
be used in this way.

Dave


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