X-Message-Number: 6258
From:  (hEpCaT)
Subject: Reply to BW
Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 11:05:13 -0700 (PDT)

On 23 May 96 16:18:21 GMT  wrote:
>
> 	I state again for the record that these kinds
> of cryonics cases are biologically indefensible, and
> do great damage to the image of cryonics.

I agree, of course. The case that you referred to that Alcor participated 
in was published in Cryonics Magazine at the time (see the article 
"Worst Case Senerio"), and so it doesn't really follow that Alcor acted 
inappropriately in any way, shape, or form with respect to this particular 
case. And, I might add, by no means is that patient's brain necessarily 
gone forever! It's true that her cranium was empty when she arrived at 
Alcor's lab, but since her abdomen had been incised and sewn up then it 
is at least possible that her brain is in her abdomen where pathologists 
typically put remains of that nature after an autopsy. The CAT scan that 
Alcor did was inconclusive. Only time will tell now.

As for this Canadian case that seems to have become a topic of 
discussion, and was handled by BPI for some cryonics organization (I 
don't know which), was MORE than a mere last minute case since 
the girl in question had already been buried for several weeks. I know 
only of a very vague mention of the case on this list, and second hand 
reports that Mike Darwin had been detained for lying to Canadian 
immigration authorities and was BANNED from ever working in Canada.

As for the insinuation that I (or any of my friends or family) had anything 
to do with the post that started this flamage, all I can say is that 
you'd be better served by answering the substance of issues rather than 
always looking for an ad hominem response. Afterall, who among you can
disprove that they were "Ragnar" or "Clarissa Wells"?

Ever forward,

David

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