X-Message-Number: 6302 Subject: Tim Leary Date: Sun, 02 Jun 1996 10:41:36 -0400 From: "Perry E. Metzger" <> I'm sorry to disabuse people, but from what I can tell it is extremely difficult to convince a committed cryonicist to abandon the idea of being suspended, especially once signed up with all arrangements in place. The fact is that Dr. Leary, who was not a particularly poor man (all assets considered) had to have his suspension for all practical purposes donated to him. The fact is that he treated the idea of a public suicide cavalierly even though he fully knew that this would likely prevent a decent suspension. External evidence is that the man was not particularly interested in cryonics except as yet another way to shock and tweak his nose at the establishment. He was happy with the idea so long as it was practically free to him and caused him no inconvenience whatsoever. A slight amount of inconvenience and he seems to have dropped the idea without much hesitation. I'd say that means that he really didn't care much about it. Who among the long time cryonicists out there could be convinced to drop their arrangements without considerable external pressure (blackmail or some such)? Do you think that someone annoying you would convince you that an extended lifespan wasn't worthwhile? I find it hard to see why everyone out there seems to care so much. It certainly seems bizarre for people to spend vast amounts of effort to get someone to agree to be suspended and then for the community to be outraged when that same person turns down a free shot at extended life over some sort of minor dispute. Don't people have anything better to do with their time and money? If Dr. Leary decided to forgo any hope of revival, and possibly centuries or millenia of extended lifespan, over trivia, well, that is evolution in action. Perhaps some folks at Cryocare were less amiable about the zoo at Chez Leary than some people might like, but this can hardly be thought of as something that would have convinced a committed cryonicist to drop his coverage. In short, this is a case of Dr. Timothy Leary deciding to let his brain rot in spite of being handed an alternative on a silver platter. The person paying the price for this decision and who had the most to lose was Dr. Timothy Leary. Dr. Timothy Leary now no longer exists as a result of his own stupidity -- no one else ultimately is to blame. This is what he apparently wanted. Leave his memory in peace. Perry Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=6302