X-Message-Number: 6375 From: (Thomas Donaldson) Subject: To Mr. Elliott Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 13:27:59 -0700 (PDT) Hi again! I should really let Brian Wowk answer this one, since he raised the issue and is entirely competent to discuss it. However here is my 2 cents anyway: at present, there is research going on which shows a very good chance at success (but when I last spoke to the researcher he had not taken it all the way, not for reasons of real difficulty but for reasons of politics and funding). The researcher works on kidneys because freezing kidneys is far more popular in the community at large then freezing brains --- and therefore gets more financial support. (He is also a cryonicist). He also points out that we may well discover differences between brains and kidneys (other than the obvious ones!) which mean that we could not IMMEDIATELY apply an ability to vitrify kidneys to brains --- but none of those differences look at all insurmountable. While I do sympathize with people suffering from kidney disease and wanting a transplant, the exclusion of brains from such research still seems to me a sign of a quite perverted set of values. ("We will keep kidney patients struggling along for a few years more, but any idea of solving one of human- kinds major problems should be ignored!"). But then I'm a cryonicist. You get to work out just whose values are perverted for yourself. Best and long long life, Thomas Donaldson Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=6375