X-Message-Number: 6409 From: Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 16:40:32 +0700 Subject: Improvements on Cryopreservation I was pleased when I found this stuff about Cryonics on the Net. People who share the same thoughts I have about the opportunities of Life-extension. It's refreshing to meet this unusual optimism about the subject. I am used to be met with criticism and a remarkable indifference when I tell folks about my visions. The Cryonics have rehabilitated my hope about mankind. I am a 31 year old Cell Biologist from Sweden, working at the Institute of Anatomy and Cell Biology in the University of Gothenburg. I am sharing the great interest in Life with the Cryonics supporters. Time has no end, but Life has. That can create deep anguish. When I was a child and couldn't sleep at the nights, I used to think about the Death. Most children have similar thoughts, but I couldn't stop thinking about Life and Death. If it was for sure that God exists, and our souls continue to live after Death everything should be satisfying, but we can definitely not be sure of that! Is an eternal life really a possibility? In theory a eternal life can be a reality, but is this a opportunity also in the practice ? I have my doubts about that, even if everything works as we hope in the future (nanotech. etc.). Probably we have to die anyway, sometime or other in the never-ending time. Maybe everything's instability have to end the life anyway, how is it about the decomposition of neutrinos for example ? Rather a Good Life for 100 years than a worse for 1000 years. Whenever we die (even if the Life -span should be a million years), it will still be a snapshot in the never-ending time Maybe we should relax and have more fun in this snapshot we call Life. Or should we do everything in our power to improve the odds ? A good Life for a thousand years is not so bad, and we can saturate our curiosity about the future. However I have a compulsion about this, so I have to do something to give the Life better odds ! (and moderate my anguish?) Without a thrust in something it's difficult to live. This is giving me deeper meaning in Life. One problem is how "nanotech" can reestablish our memory if it has been damaged in the freezing process ? I think that would be very difficult. Hence, it's important to improve the freezing techniques ! The nerve connections in CNS are important for the personality and the memory, and we can't allow these to being damaged during the freezing process. I am doing some research about vitrification of whole organs. I have no money for this project so I have to do this beside my regular work. Because of that, it will take some time. I have done a few pilots, cryoperfusing brains from rats down to -70 C with a new mix of cryogenic fluid. I had some difficulties with, among other things, steering the freezing rate, because I worked with very simply instruments, but I think the method has great potential. In brief, Freezing-process 1. I relaxed the vessels with Nimotop (which also protects against ishemic brain damage). 2. The rat was perfused with a modified Ringer solution down to 4 C. 3. do. with added cryopreservative agents : 2.5M DMSO, 60mM Sucrose, 15% Egg yolk, L-Glutamine, Glucose. 4. do. at a controlled and a relative rapid freezing rate down to -70 C, with a media which doesn't freeze at such low temperature (decreasing concentration of water and cryoprot. agents during the process). 5. do. with Nitrogen in gas form -above the freezing-point of the media. 6. Liquid Nitrogen The brains are showing some shrinkage, caused by the vitrification. This is reversible, and probably not on a toxic level. They show no other alterations or damages ! (It's very difficult to say how vital the nerve cells really are) So far so good, The brains haven't been thawed and analysed yet. But I have outlined it as follows : Thawing 1. Put the object in -80 C freezer. 2. Perfuse with air, for a time enough to prevent recrystalization . 3. Perfuse with a nutrition solution containing decreasing amount of sucrose (protection against osmotic stress) and agents protecting against brain damage. 4. Then quickly up to body-temperature Analyse A. Frequency of neurospecific marker proteins, like S-100 and NSE at a certain time after thawing. B. Counting the uptake of radioactive thymidin (scintillation counter) in the nerve-cells. Other opportunities to investigate the vitality of frozen tissue: Transplantation of frozen nerve cells, Cell growth in vitro, Vital staining EBA(Evan's Blue Albumin) in vivo and Trypan Blue in vitro, but this is only demonstrating damage on the cell membranes, TEM and SEM ? Comparing against controls taken after different steps. First I want to see if the cryomedia I use down to -75 C show any toxic effects in this low temperature. Which kind and how much of cryoprotective agents can be solved in this media ? I welcome everyone who have comments to this message ! To CryoNet, or to my email address which is Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=6409