X-Message-Number: 6626 Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 06:31:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Skrecky <> Subject: cryostat variants In Message #6604 (Thomas Donaldson) wrote: >preserve a head for centuries so long as we keep it at -150 deg C ... What we will need is some engineering work to find out a better form of STORAGE, too. I would say that this issue is really crucial to the cost of vitrified storage; not only that, but some kind of passive system, which maintains the right temperature WITHOUT continual power input, very likely WOULD be patentable.< Water/ice will stay near 0 C till all the ice is melted. Perhaps a liquid which freezes at around -150 would fit the bill. Freon 12 for example freezes at -158, yet boils only at -29. For a cryostat containing a mixture of solid/liquid freon 12 the temperature of -158 would effectively preclude expensive boiloff. Liquid freon could be drained periodically from the cryostat, refrozen and then added back inside. Another possibility would be to use sorbitol or some other "solid" cryoprotectant with a glass transition greater than -78 so that then cold storage could use dry ice. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=6626