X-Message-Number: 6688 Subject: "Prometheus project" profiteers Date: Mon, 05 Aug 96 11:04:08 GMT From: (Michelle Olga Visser) On 96/07/31 11:34PM, in message <>, Steve Farmer <> wrote: > Brian Wowk, CEO of CryoCare, writes: > > > I actually wrote you privately to save *you* from public embarrassment > > over your outrageous statements. You responded that you did not > > have time to reply, being pressed by some urgent deadline. Yet you > > seem to have plenty of time to continue your public insinuations. > > You contacted me back-channel to try to shut me up while your Vice > President, Charles Platt, was frantically putting up post after post in > response to my analyses of the Prometheus Project. I at first responded > to the questions in your e-mail at length and then got hit with more, > forcing me to call a halt to the exchange. I was indeed under tight > deadline pressures. > > What you call "public insinuations" involved pointing out how CryoCare > and LEF would end up owning shares - all thanks to donated funds - in > the for-profit corporation whose formation was one goal of the > Prometheus Project. I pointed out that even if the Corporation went > bankrupt, the 10 million dollars the Prometheus Project planned to raise > from donors would indeed get spent - and that this would directly > benefit LEF and CryoCare. That goes a long way beyond "insinuation." > > You write, on your supposed disinvolvement in cryonics research: > > > I do MRI research for a living, funded by > > the Heart and Stroke Foundation of Canada. I live 1500 miles away > > from the nearest cryonics research facility. Why don't you take > > your pathetic insinuations to alt.paranoid.fantasy where they > > belong. > > Brian, you are listed as "Patient Care Director" and "Chief Executive > Officer" of CryoCare. CryoCare's homepage describes you as "author on > numerous technical articles on cryonics" and "team leader for the first > human cryopreservation performed in Canada." Are you claiming that you > have abandoned cryonics research - and hence that you and CryoCare > *wouldn't* benefit from the 10 million dollars in funds sought for the > Prometheus Project? ----------------------------------Reply Separator-------------------------------------- Dear Mr Farmer, You are indeed a man after my own heart. Thank you for standpoint and doing what you believe in - May God provide more like you. Mr Brian Wowk of Cryocare cares not for any solution to the cryopreservation problem or those of his "patients" in his care. I have been following some of your correspondence of late and have the following public announce -ment to make: I would generally not have done so, but as things have developed the way they have - what the hell. Let the world know how things are, and who the scoundrels are. Let me start by saying that I have found a way to cryoprotect organs (large and small) , frozen in liquid nitrogen more that one year ago. The Australian TV program have filmed such experiment (Paul Bryant can verify) - I can supply his number to those interested, due for screening later this year. Private demonstrations are possible - many have been done. Success rate is far above 75%. I supplied article to "Cryobiology" for publication in December 1995, and had it rejected for review on three occasions - for minor or irrelevant material. I am willing to supply full detail!!! I am currently contemplating moving said article to "Science" as they have no objective interest not to publish. The fact is that my technology is simple , reproducible any not exactly according to all the myths of cryobiology. Before sending my Article off to a journal, I had established trusted and reliable co-workers, respected physicists and cryobiologist who verify my findings. No peer reviewed journal dare find different as implied by mr brian wowk. These Scientists will be made public when necessary. Mr Brian Wowk was brave enough to 1) challenge me to publish first, and make claims later! Excellent advise in normal conditions - would your clients requiring my technology be happy to wait the couple of years the article is "conveniently" stalled for treatment? I would then, under those specific conditions advise all your clients to seek a safer "home". 2) state that crayonists must beware , my technology involves flash freezing - unproven! Which it does not . It involves slow or flash freezing, with large or small organs. What then is Mr Brian Wowk so afraid of? Why does he so ardently promote a cause that is possibly already won? $10 Mil is more than rediculous for outdated technology. Why does he not test what is in hand? How can you trust someone so outlandishly biased? Moderation as always should be the keyword. I am afraid your Mr Brian Wowk is anything but moderate! fanatic seems very apt- and extremely dangerous!!! Mr Wowk, tell me pray - what have you during your entire miserable life ever donated or done towards relieving human suffering? - don't answer. What is your calling to anything of anything? - please answer if you can! I now have a public statement to make: I , Michelle Olga Visser , CEO of Cryopreservation technologies and the majority shareholder , registered owner of patent pending to successfully cryoprotect organs do hereby declare that Mr Brian Wowk (or any associated company) is hereby excluded from licensing or any benefit of my technology in future. So cryonisists beware where you take your business!!!!! You might end up in a dead end, and there are some good companies out there. My technology will be make available at a low cost to all other cryonics companies (should they be interested in future). Unlike some people, I can afford to have my name mentioned, - am self supporting, and cannot be "fired" for dealing with anyone. My research was paid for by my family, and some private firms, with no strings attached. This "urkes" the scientific community - tough luck. I have succeeded where all others have failed. If they "piss me off enough" I will publish on internet! Mr Farmer, by the way, - the identity of the scientist you seek ,-- call me personally and I will tell you who it is. It happens to be one of the reviewers of my article, which I can disclose to you in private. Another strange fact in my case is that none of the reviewers identities was revealed to us, but we found out via other means. As for the rest of this " Prometheus" halabaloo, I think it is a plain waste of time, looking at it from my end. The technology they seek was available a year ago - do they what it -no? If Brian Wowk thinks it is good (Prometheus that is) - need I say more?. God Bless all of you and happy hunting , and those who really seek the truth - ask and ye shall be told. Kindly Olga __________________ Michelle Olga Visser Head of Research, Department of Thoracic Surgery Faculty of Medicine, University of Pretoria P.O.Box 667, Pretoria, 0001 South Africa Phone : +27 12 3541677 (W) +27 12 3310701 (H) CEO Cryopreservation Technologies cc Patent pending holder for cryopreservation technology E-mail: Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=6688