X-Message-Number: 7008 Date: 01 Oct 96 04:26:40 EDT From: Paul Wakfer <> Subject: Prometheus Project Testimonials Dear sci.cryonics and CryoNet reader, Recently, when I re-read the writings of some of the Prometheus Project pledgers, I became very moved and inspired. Therefore, I thought that some of you might also like to share their hope and optimism once more. If not, I hope, at least that you will not mind this message using up some of your net time. It is very clear that each of these people is deadly serious and very earnest about saving his life and about his belief that the Prometheus Project is an excellent way to give him a fighting chance to do so. Each believes this so strongly that he has pledged a major portion of his earnings to the Project's revolutionary purpose. I know that most of you reading this are equally serious at wanting to vastly extend your lives. Please remember that I am not asking for money, but only a show of *support-in-principle* for the emergence of a well planned brain cryopreservation project executed by professional scientists. The larger our pledge total becomes, the larger will be the incentive for mainstream scientists to take the Project seriously. Finally, remember that this project is *essential* regardless of which cryopreservation technology (Visser method, vitrification, something else?) ultimately proves most promising. Only cryonicists have the motivation to study brain cryopreservation, and only a *unified community* of cryonicists can provide the resources necessary to comprehensively perfect and prove a brain cryopreservation technology. -- Paul -- The Prometheus Project: Convincingly demonstrated, scientifically proven and published, fully reversible, long-term brain cryopreservation within 10 years. >From a $10,000.00 per year pledger who prefers to remain anonymous: Since childhood, death was something I realized I wanted no part of. So in 1976, when I was first introduced to cryonics, I embraced the concept immediately. Although I hoped aging would be reversible during my life, I saw cryonics as a life preserver. I evolved into a nutritional and fitness addict sometime in my 20s. For the next ten years or so, I felt almost invincible. Suddenly, in 1978, I suffered a serious injury. My mortality became a very real issue. And it was something I vowed to overcome. My personal purpose of life developed into simply... not dying. Since I wasn't blessed with the brain power to contribute to the scientific part of the immortality equation, I decided to take another route. I determined to acquire enough money to have some meaningful impact on funding aging research. It's been a goal for several years. I did manage to make small contributions to the effort... but not yet the amount I have in mind. The Prometheus Project seems like a very possible vehicle to leverage my money and efforts. Hopefully, it will evolve into something I can increase my support to. I'm impressed with the underlying talent, commitment, proprietary interest and ethics of the key people involved. So far, it's the only group I found with that combination. And that's going to be what it takes to make it work. Eventually, I even hope to raise financial support from some of my investor friends outside the cryonics community, assuming the Prometheus Project will be a viable for-profit venture. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >From $10,000.00 per year pledger Billy Seidel: I wake up in the morning and hurt. I wish I could feel like I did at 30 or 40 or even 50. Now I will be 63 in July and $10,000 per year doesn't look like a lot of money if there is any way I might make it to the other end. $10,000 per year is a lot of money and will buy a lot of creature comforts, but what good is that if this creature is not here to enjoy them. With so many people digging deeply to make their large pledges, how can the rest of us stand by and just watch? I know they are being very selfish in doing this so that they can stay alive and beat death. ME TOO. I also am very selfish about my pledge. I do this for me. I want to beat death. If we lose this fight it will be the greatest loss to me. It takes our whole life to almost get our act together, and then we die. What a terrible loss for all of us. There is no time left. We must act now. I am closer to death now than when I started writing this. * * * AND SO ARE YOU* * * ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >From Ken Wolfe a $5,000.00 per year pledger from Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada: Ever since our species developed self awareness, so long ago, the greatest tragedy we have faced is awareness of our own death and an inability to do anything about it. As we all sit in the banquet hall of life, there has been a skull hovering just outside the window, grinning at us. That skull is Death, and right now it appears to be just as unassailable as it ever was. If the Prometheus Project succeeds, then ten years from now we could be the ones grinning at Death and telling him "your days are numbered." Last year I signed up for cryopreservation. Also last year, three of my uncles were either buried or cremated. I would like to have been able to offer all of them a better alternative, but I doubt I could have persuaded any of them that being pumped full of toxic glycerol and frozen would be much better. Maybe it's not. Before I lose anybody else, and before I too am beyond the help of contemporary medicine, I would like for there to be a better alternative, one that we can demonstrate is better. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >From Bill Faloon, a $50,000.00 per year pledger: Investing in brain cryopreservation research is a direct assault on death. If we truly want to conquer aging and death, it is imperative that we support this exciting project. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >From Charles Platt, a $10,000.00 per year pledger: I can think of few other developments as important to the human race--and to me personally!--as reversible brain cryopreservation. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >From Bruce Waugh, a $5,000.00 per year pledger from Toronto, Canada: "Death is an imposition on the human race, and no longer acceptable. Man has all but lost his ability to accommodate himself to personal extinction; he must now proceed physically to overcome it. In short, to kill death". These words, which begin Alan Harrington's "The Immortalist" had a profound impact on me when I read them in 1969. They expressed the thoughts I had been thinking at that time, and yet they were thoughts that no-one else was expressing. Did no-one else care? Yeats, I found, understood the evil of aging: "What shall I do with this absurdity- O heart, O troubled heart-- this caricature, Decrepit age that has been tied to me As to a dog's tail". The Immortalist" talked optimistically about science's advances towards stopping aging, and then death. But that was 27 years ago. A chapter that has stayed with me was called The Cryonics Underground. It described cryonics as an insurance policy - one that looks more and more necessary as the prospects of defeating death still seem very far away. But the book was too optimistic again. Professor Jean Rostad is quoted: "So we don't have long to wait before we shall know how to freeze the human organism without injuring it. When that happens, we shall have to replace cemeteries with dormitories, so that each of us may have the chance for immortality that the present state of knowledge seems to promise." The commercial possibilities were also discussed: " The Cryonics Movement may at some point have vast commercial possibilities. Science-fiction writer Frederik Pohl estimates the potential profits from freezing and storage in trillions of dollars." The book was exciting - but its promise has not been fulfilled. The reasons for my pledge flow from all of this. If I do not act, who will? I am not an active person in cryonics - my job more than fills my working days, and my wife, 2 children, relatives and friends occupy most of my remaining time. I very much admire those who devote so much of their time to cryonics. I am therefore pleased that I am able to participate by way of my pledge towards making the step change to our world that the Prometheus Project can accomplish. I hope others in a similar situation will feel the same way. To them, I would repeat this quote cited in The Immortalist from Robert Ettinger: "This is not a hobby or conversation piece: it is the principal activity of this phase of our lives; it is the struggle for survival. Drive a used car if the cost of a new one interferes. Divorce your wife if she will not cooperate. Save your money; get another job and save more money. Sometimes a fool will blunder through, but don't count on it. The universe has no malice, but neither has it mercy, and a miss is as good as a mile." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Cosic, a $10,000.00 per year pledger writes about himself: I was born in 1959. I have a BSEE degree and have completed some graduate courses. The focus of my professional work has been in electronic sensing systems for industrial automation. I am part owner of Montronix and my current position here is North American Sales Manager. This position consumes a great deal of my time and is one of the reasons that I have only a minimal presence on the Internet. I also, like many of us, have family obligations. I have followed cryonics on and off for the past 15 years. When I read "Engines Of Creation" I just KNEW (strongly wanted to believe?) that there could be a path back from the freezing damage and realized that I had to sign up for suspension with some organization. Around the time of the Alcor-CryoCare split, a death in my immediate family convinced me that I had to do it NOW. I acquired copies of ALL the available books and magazines from Alcor (including back issues) and met with (or at least spoke at length with) representatives from TransTime, CI, Alcor, and CC. I toured Alcor's CA facility and 21st Century (twice). I have met a significant number of the players by attending LEF, EXTRO, and A4M conferences. So why did I pledge a contribution to the project? I enjoy every single day I have on this planet - even the bad ones. I am not willing to give up all that I have learned and labored for without a fight. Like cryonics itself, the project seems (to me at least) to be the best of a very short list of really bad alternatives to my personal oblivion. My pledge is an effort to help get this thing started and in everyone's face. Yes, mistakes will be made and money will be wasted. Yes, we should try to learn from similar efforts that may have been attempted in the past. Yes, an enormous amount of work will have to be done to specify what the project should tackle and how to tackle these things. We have no choice. We must do this. I think that, in retrospect, the project will be seen not as an event, but as part of an accelerating social trend toward a desire for longer vital lifespans. But that view does not minimize its importance. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >From a $1,000.00 per year pledger who prefers to be called Methuselah: I am pledging $1,000 per year for the 10 years, in support of the Prometheus project to research brain vitrification. If only my personal finances would allow, I would make it much more. Although I am not a professional scientist, I am widely read in cryonics issues, and the way I add it all up, this type of research seems to offer the best possibility of success for eventual reanimation, and should be our priority focus. Paul Wakfer's "nonpartisan" approach is most encouraging, and entirely necessary for this project to succeed. There just aren't that many of us who are sufficiently committed to cryonics to put our money on the line. This project needs the support and involvement of every cryonicist and of every cryonics organization. The business plan for the research corporation must also provide for equitable and fair access for all participants, to the results of all research conducted. If we do these things, we will move forward together in optimal efforts toward making cryonics really work for extending our lives. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >From Saul Kent, a $50,000 per year pledger: I've pledged $25,000 per year for 10 years to fund brain cryopreservation research because I believe this research is absolutely critical to my survival. I believe a well-funded program to perfect brain cryopreservation will lead to major growth in the cryonics movement, the achievement of whole-body suspended animation, the acceleration of anti-aging and rejuvenation research, and the eventual achievement of physical immortality. I urge everyone who values their life to participate in this revolutionary project. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >From John K Clark, a $1,000 per year pledger: It could be that Nanotechnology is needed for reversible brain cryopreservation, but too many people I respect think otherwise for me to ignore the possibility. Although small by some standards this would be the largest research project ever undertaken in this area, the largest by far. Interesting things will certainly be found, and if the goal is actually reached the world will never be the same. I can't imagine ever regretting this decision, if it works I'll be rather proud of myself for helping, and I might even make some money, gaining immortality wouldn't be too bad either. If the goal is not reached at least I won't be tormented with the thought that it failed because people like me had no interest in it. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=7008