X-Message-Number: 72 From: Kevin Q. Brown Subject: fate of individual survival Date: 30 Mar 1989 Editorial / Opinion - The Fate of Individual Survival ----------------------------------------------------- Do you remember when natural was obviously not artificial? When seeing was believing and photographs did not lie? When life was easily distinguished from death? The new knowledge and new options being opened up by our science and technology often blur and complicate our schemes for categorizing our world. Of course, we cryonicists are smug in the conviction that we know about nanotechnology, cell repair machines, space colonization, etc. and have a pretty good idea of what to expect from the future, unlike the average person. Right? Think again. The goal of cryonics is individual survival. I suggest, however, that just as science and technology have blurred and complicated the distinction between life and death, they will also blur and complicate the distinction between self and non-self and thereby blur and complicate our notions of individuality and survival. In particular, the debates (in sci.nanotech, Cryonics, The Immortalist, and elsewhere) concerning whether a person REALLY survives when he or she uploads (to a non-organic medium) or beams up via a Star Trek style transporter, suggest to me that our current concepts of self and survival will not stand up to the options provided by future technology. Furthermore, such debates may be as unimportant as calculating the number of angels that can fit on the head of a pin. Blasphemy! Nothing is more important than our personal survival! How can such a question be unimportant? Read on ... Long before anyone is revived from (current techniques for) cryonic suspension we will have high bandwidth direct brain / computer interconnection. It will occur before rather than after the first reanimation (from current suspension techniques) because (1) it is technically simpler, and (2) it will be in demand. It is technically simpler because it does not require advanced nanotechnology to construct I/O ports between organic brains and silicon. It will be in demand because humans and computers are quite complementary; humans are very good at several things that are hard for computers and computers are very good at several things that are hard for humans. A human / computer symbiote will be more powerful (and economically advantageous) than either alone. As the brain / computer interfaces improve, more of the memory of the human can reside in the computer and more of the high-level, commonsense thinking and real-world interfaces of the computer can reside in the human. One thing that computers are very good at is high bandwidth telecommunications. The human / computer symbiote may thus be distributed widely geographically. But what if the human capabilities are needed simultaneously at two (or more) locations? Expand the symbiote to include more than one human (perhaps clones of the same human). These two (or more) humans will be much more intimately connected than two people talking on a telephone; they will share the same memories (and perhaps thoughts) rather than just pass sound waves back and forth. It must be done this way because "you" want to be at each location, not just have someone else sitting in as your representative. A symbiote will have a much different sense of self than anyone living today. As the fidelity of uploading increases, all the human bodies will become equivalent interfaces to the same symbiote person; "I" will become the symbiote system, not just any particular human body. The memories of all bodies will be uploaded and stored redundantly throughout the system. This symbiote system may sound wildly foreign, but is actually just an extension of what we already have. The brain is a highly interconnected network and a symbiote will be a bigger, highly interconnected network. Rather than losing individuality when building oneself up to a symbiote system, one gains it since one can do more at once. Furthermore, life becomes much safer (provided one avoids the electronic equivalents of worms, viruses, etc.). Suppose that one of the human bodies comprising a symbiote is obliterated in a nuclear explosion. Did anyone die? From the point of view of the symbiote (and thus of all the human bodies remaining in the symbiote) that is a moot point because the human / computer symbiote will still survive, and, furthermore, no information will be lost because all information that was ever retrievable from the recently destroyed human body had already been backed up elsewhere. The symbiote will likely just "shrug its shoulders" and get on with business. (That is why it will be unimportant whether a person "really" survives uploading; the symbiote will not care.) "Naked" humans that are not uploaded into any symbiote system will constantly be at great risk of destruction. Economics and evolution will thus favor symbiote systems; most people will be symbiotes, not "naked" humans. It gets even more complex than that, though. The symbiote systems that I just described are uploaded and distributed, but still have a fairly clear sense of self vs. nonself. Suppose, however, that you mixed and matched (uploaded) parts of your personality with parts of other people's personalities to form a composite, thinking and feeling person. Who is that person? Or does this sound too far out to be possible? Believe it or not, you already do something like that in your own head. Everyone has little sub-personalities corresponding to their (perceptions of their) parents, friends, heros, employers, etc. Furthermore, little bits of you are scattered among all the people who ever met you, heard of you, or were somehow affected by you. No human lives in isolation. This proposed uploading, mixing, and matching is a technological extension of a process that already exists. What is individuality and what is survival? As you can see, it becomes complicated. Furthermore, a more important and more powerful question is "What do we want?". One could pursue survival by mass-duplication - one survives provided the rate of one's destruction does not overcome the rate of duplication - but somehow that seems to miss the point. I now need to restate an earlier assertion. The goal of cryonics is not individual survival; it is continuation of one's life. The difference is the emphasis: pursuing life rather than avoiding death. Picasso said that every act of creation is a series of little destructions. The same goes for life. You cannot live without changing, but changing may cause the "death" of the old you. A symbiote system will remember being a single, "naked" human, but is clearly not the same person as before. The traditional scenario for survival through reanimation from cryonic suspension now seems quaint and innocent. It sounds like heaven; when you first re-awake you will be surrounded by your friends and loved ones (who have come back before you) and these people will all be young, healthy, wise, incredibly wealthy and powerful by today's standards, and, of course, in immortal bliss. I cannot believe it will be that simple. Symbiotes will still engage in power struggles and even engage in deceit and an occasional murder, much as people do today, except on a much wider and more complex scale. Ordinary, "naked" humans will not stand a chance in this game. But, it's the only game in town. Let the good times roll! - Kevin Q. Brown ...att!ho4cad!kqb Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=72