X-Message-Number: 7340 Subject: Re: Prometheus Pledger on CNN Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 14:53:30 -0600 From: Will Dye <> I'd like to extend my congratulations to Mr. Halperin on his success in The Truth Machine, and the promising (optioned already!) progress with The First Immortal. IMO, a miniseries on cryonics will be a Good Thing. I'm still doing quite a bit of wrestling with anti- cryonics memes. I'm of the opinion that much of the resistance will quickly fade with increased exposure to the ideas, combined with positive stories from a _diversity_ of people who've signed up or have been suspended. I realize that the history of this matter leaves plenty of room for doubt, but that's still my best guess. My own experiences indicate that the stated objections people have are brought out _after_ the person has decided that cryonics is not a good thing. I.e. even though people drag out religious or scientific objections, addressing those objections _directly_ doesn't work because the stated objections are not the deeper reasons. That's why refuting a particular objection only inspires them to search for another objection. It's tempting to simply regard the person as irrational, or develop a contempt for the ideology (religion, scientific group, whatever) that they keep turning to. But the best progress, in my experience, comes from gently refuting the arguments, while addressing as best as possible the deeper reasons. Bogosity is a human characteristic, and we all share it. Just in different places. What are the deeper reasons? Well, it seems plausible that this depends on the person. But (guessing here) I suppose that it boils down to a simple sense of conservatism when it comes to something as complicated and critical as death. Other memes (dealing with death, sense of self, etc.) no doubt come into play, but I argue that they can all be categorized as a series of ways we've developed to deal with death. Cryonics throws a wrench into that touchy subject, so naturally (and sensibly) our conservative side is more likely to come into play. Consider the group of penguins standing at the edge of the water. No one wants to be first to jump in (and with good reason - there may be predators down there). Finally a few brave souls jump in, then a few more, and when others see that everyone else is going in, the rush is on. For those (like myself) who want cryonics to reach a much larger level of acceptance, let's hope that the eloquent Mr. Halperin produces a penguin. Some may catch the referece here: :-) "What's on the telly?" "Looks like a penguin" --Will Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=7340