X-Message-Number: 7564 Date: 26 Jan 97 03:45:15 EST From: "Steven B. Harris" <> Subject: Visseral Disgust Dear Cryonet: A month ago, Ms. Olga Visser, a perfusionist in Pretoria who seems to have developed a 25% N,N dimethylformamide solution which allows flash freezing of rat heart with recovery of contractions, had this to say about my skepticism of whether or not the method would ever be useful for transplantation of any organ: >>Dr. Steve Harris reminds me of the insurance salesman who believes if he talks fast enough and sounds intelligent, he might be believed.<< Very well-- let us speak now of belief. It now appears from recent news reports that this same Ms. Visser has been testing out the same N,N dimethylformamide on humans, specifically AIDS patients, calling it "Virodene P058" (no doubt this is the extropian name for the substance). According to Ms. Visser, as quoted in news reports, the stuff destroys HIV, and has converted AIDS patients to apparently healthy mere HIV-positives. Shades of that old quack Hulda Clark and her Cure for All Diseases-- we are now asked to *believe* that in the face of establishment resistance, Olga Visser has managed to discover the answer to both AIDS and death, if not the problem of taxes and how to get a grant from the government. Unfortunately, it also appears that Ms. Visser and her team have also rediscovered a time-honored way of getting around the stuffy old medical establishment in order to do experiments on humans: one simply does it without asking. In some cases, without asking the patients; and in others, without informing the patients of the risks. And always, one does it without informing the hospital ethics committee, which has no idea of what is going on. Nor does one mention to the South African government that all of your test subjects, who are about to get doses of a mutagen and DNA toxin, all happen to be poor and black. For these days, the government of South Africa is lacking in sense of humor about such things. Yes, dimethylformamide is a mutagen, with a great deal of toxicity for multiple organs. Once upon a time, it was tried out as a chemotherapeutic agent. Gram for gram, it's about as toxic as ethylene glycol or methanol, and far nastier to the germ line (reproductive) cells than either of these. All of which caused us at 21st Century Medicine some consternation some time ago when Visser announced that her cryoprotective agent was being tested in humans, and was without significant toxicity. "At what doses?" we wanted to know. At concentrations similar to those used in cold hearts, the stuff strips hell out of red cell membranes and kills kidney slices-- we found that in our own experiments. And at far lower doses, it kills living whole animals. So why would one want to give smaller doses still, to living people? As an experimental AIDS treatment, now comes the answer. As AN AIDS TREATMENT??? Only a damn fool would give something with this record of toxicity to human beings with AIDS, without a huge amount of published and verified research of the effects of this substance on HIV replication in vitro (in culture), plus confirmatory research on its effects on closely related lentiviruses such as FIV and SIV in animal models (cats and monkeys). Where is all of this research? It certainly isn't turning up on my computer searches of the world medical literature. Ms. Visser continues in her post to me: >>Quite frankly, your general "Soviet style researchers" would advise a kindly home of safe-keeping, without access to a modem or type-writer, removal of "M.D" credentials, and some sort of public warning for similar symptoms as those displayed by yourself. I personally suggest a permanent holiday, before you do yourself a permanent injury.<< On the contrary, I can now say that I believe it is essential that Olga Visser be put on some kind of holiday, before she does someone ELSE a permanent injury-- probably some black person with AIDS in a Pretorian hospital, who has enough problems in life without falling prey to a megalomaniac. And although we cannot remove Visser's "M.D." credentials, since she hasn't any, this is perhaps not a bad idea for dealing with her South African physician-colleagues in this pitiful affair, who surely bear some responsibility also. Speaking of which, we now come to that worshipful U.S. patron of Visser, the Alcor Life Extension Foundation, which was warned by us at Biopreservation that there was something awfully strange about Visser's claims to be doing experiments with dimethylformamide on humans, but which continued to fund Visser anyway, and do nothing. I have to say I was at first a bit surprised in this, even by Alcor. When it comes to basic biological science, Alcor has long lacked the ability to find its corporate rear with both hands, so to speak-- this many of us knew. But they were warned in the Visser case by people who knew better, so why again did nothing happen? When it came to ethics, after all, Alcor has always claimed to hold the high ground, and to be extra careful not to associate with loose cannons of various sorts. With a little reflection, however, I believe that Alcor's commitment to "ethics" in cryonics will be understood to be a rather carefully limited thing. For the Alcor Foundation, the interests of "frozen patients" come first, you see. The fact that what we are told are the "interests" of the "frozen patients" just happen to coincide exactly with the interests of the Alcor board of directors in expanding and keeping personal control over Alcor's monetary assets, is to be understood as a coincidence. The Visser publicity was good for the "frozen patients," so there you have it. This outweighs all else. As for the interests of *living* patients, be they Visser's patients, Alcor's patients, anybody's patients, except insofar as they represent potentially profitable frozen meat in Alcor's dewars (in whatever condition makes little difference for this purpose)-- Alcor doesn't give a flying f*(% about them. If one understands this simple principle, the stranger-than-fiction episode of Visser, and many other episodes in Alcor's recent history as well, all become far less opaque. Not unrelated to all this, Mike Darwin has recently asked me to post something about the DSM psychiatric classification of the personality disorder descriptively called "narcissistic personality disorder." I'll be glad to. Here are the diagnostic criteria as my handbook lists them. The more one knows about the history of cryonics, the more carefully one should read. -- Steve Harris Addendum: ------------------------------------------------ Diagnostic Criteria for Narcissistic Personality Disorder The following are characteristic of the individual's current and long-term functioning, are not limited to episodes of illness, and cause either significant impairment in social functioning or subjective distress: A. Grandiose sense of self-importance or uniqueness, e.g., exaggeration of achievements and talents, focus on the special nature of one's problems. B. Preoccupation with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love [the manual adds "Frequently there is painful self-consciousness, preoccupation with grooming and remaining youthful, and chronic, intense envy of others."] C. Exhibitionism: the person requires constant attention and admiration. D. Cool indifference or marked feelings of rage, inferiority, shame, humiliation, or emptiness in response to criticism, the indifference of others, or defeat. E. At least two of the following characteristic of disturbances in interpersonal relationships: 1) entitlement: expectation of special favors without assuming reciprocal responsibilities, e.g., surprise and anger that people will not do what is wanted 2) interpersonal exploitativeness: taking advantage of others to indulge own desires or for self-aggrandizement; disregard for the personal integrity and rights of others 3) relationships that characteristically alternate between the extremes of over-idealization and devaluation 4) lack of empathy: inability to recognize how others feel, e.g., unable to appreciate the distress of someone who is seriously ill. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=7564