X-Message-Number: 7656
From:  (Thomas Donaldson)
Subject: Re: CryoNet #7647 - #7654
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 10:30:18 -0800 (PST)

Hi again!

Brian Wowk's answer (which really was a collective answer by him, Mike Darwin,
and Saul Kent) was a good one, and strengthens my belief in the account I gave
separately to Ettinger about what had happened.

As for Fred Chamberlain's comments about the tapes of successful experiments:
while I still wish for Visser's solution to work, they make it seem less and
less likely. I also hope that this kind of immersion in LN was NOT written
up in Visser's as yet unpublished paper --- it shows very little. (I'm not
objecting to foam cups full of LN, I'm objecting to the lack of any independent
verification, by thermocouple or otherwise, that the "frozen" hearts were
actually frozen to LN temperature). 

As for Alcor the organization, it's clearly leaning over backwards to give
Visser's cryoprotectant a good test. When Alcor gets the new solution from
SA I will be very interested to know how it works out --- though right now
things don't look very good at all. Should Alcor take all this trouble? Well,
that may be a matter of opinion, but if we are deciding just which solutions
to study further, I'd say we owe it to Olga Visser to give her every 
opportunity to prove that hers is a good choice.

			Long long life to all,

				Thomas Donaldson

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