X-Message-Number: 7679 Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 21:45:13 -0800 From: Paul Wakfer <> Subject: Re: Technology Disclosure Thanks for the compliments, Ken. Yes, the dewars are also sitting on six inches of very low conductivity foam at the silo bottoms which are 12" of reinforced concrete thick. The foam itself without any wood is sufficient to hold the weight of the dewar fully loaded. Unfortunately, we do not have room for further insulation on the actual silo concrete walls. Maybe some would help, but I doubt that it would help if we had to decrease the insulating layer next to the dewar wall. There is a point at which the long-term saving vs initial cost benefits comparison is no longer positive. With respect to a longer gas exit path, that is something which will happen automatically as the system is completed. I didn't mention it before, but above the 6" foam dewar top which causes the gas to exit down the outside of the dewar will be fire retardant foam (with reasonable insulating properties) attached to the silo steel lid which seals the silo by its rubber gasket and weight. Therefore, the only gas exit path when we are finished will be out the emergency water overflow pipe which exits onto the neighbors parking lot three feet below our floor surface level. I expect that this will help a little. And yes, I am actually hoping to get the boiloff rate down to a full 50% of nominal, although I am not "counting my chickens". -- Paul -- CryoSpan, Inc. low cost, secure cryogenic storage of biological material 1313 N Market St. Suite 3410, Wilmington, DE 19801-1151 Email: Voice/Fax:909-481-4433 Pager:800-805-2870 Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=7679