X-Message-Number: 7719 From: Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 11:06:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: ice damage Brian Wowk's #7715, including discussion of ice damage, is a bit misleading in some respects. "...ice squeezes vital ions and proteins out of the tissue, forcing them into shrinking pockets of residual unfrozen water. Even the fabric of cells themselves is crushed into these tiny spaces among the ice crystals." Actually, the expansion of water as it freezes is only roughly 10%; hence, on average, tissues are NOT "squeezed into tiny spaces," although some may be. For a more balanced and optimistic discussion of ice damage (and limitations thereof), see e.g. Greg Fahy's sworn declaration in the Dora Kent case (Case No. 191277, Superior Court, County of Riverside, California, Appendix of Declarations, dated Feb. 1, 1988). (The Immortalist Society has reprints available.) Robert Ettinger Immortalist Society Cryonics Institute Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=7719