X-Message-Number: 7776 Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 09:11:00 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Skrecky <> Subject: Canadian Cryonics News exerpts The following articles appeared in the Volume 33 November 1996 issue of Canadian Cryonics News. Apologies is any of you that have seen these articles before. Does anyone know the answer to the [question] imbedded in the text? A THOUGHT EXPERIMENT By Doug Skrecky For some time now I have been writing short articles about life extension and cryonics. I am middle aged and not getting any younger, yet these efforts seem to have had only a limited practical value. I had not added any new information to the database about either of these topics. What I have done is regurgitate what I have read in obscure medical journals and popularized them in various media. I have a little spare time currently to do more than this and have been thinking about what to do. Of these two topics the field of life extension is obviously much more important, since the primary determinant for whether either cryonics or any other post mortum preservation technique actually yields an "afterlife" will be how much time has elapsed for them to be improved. One is also reminded of the saying "One bird in hand is worth two in the bush". I will talk therefore mostly about life extension, but these comments apply in general to cryonics as well. The key test for whether a given intervention can slow aging is to see if it actually increases lifespan. Reducing disease incidence can achieve this independantly of aging, but any attempts to increase lifespan based on reducing disease incidence alone can add no more than about 15 years to ones lifespan. Slowing or reversing the aging process could in principal add centuries so there is a much larger payoff for focusing on aging itself rather than the diseases which typically attend it. To restate this in more detail we might be able, by focusing on means to lower cancer and cardiovascular disease risks increase average lifespan from 75 to as much as 90 years, but the maximum lifespan will remain at about 120. By focusing on aging the sky is the limit, with average lifespans in excess of 120 years being possible for us and even more for our children. It is not practical to test agents for anti-aging effects on either humans or any other long lived species because of the great expense and length of time required to yield meaningful results. This would be tantamount to gambling that either of supplements A, B or C will help one to live longer and then taking them all and hoping for the best. Does this sound familiar? Unfortunately this is what most of us having been doing until very recently. Useful data can be obtained by testing supplements and other interventions on short lived animal species. We can become increasingly confident these may work in humans as well, when a variety of such animals species have been tested with uniformly positive results. This has been the route taken with caloric restriction with adequate nutrition (CRAN), which has been proved to slow aging and in some cases dramatically extend the lives of the animals so treated throughout their lifespan from infancy. Only a few dedicated life extensionists are currently on a CRAN program, since this seems to require a considerable amount of willpower and self-denial. It also needs to be admitted that the benefits for CRAN initiated in adulthood are typically rather more modest than those obtained with initiation in infancy. The particular strain of animal species that is tested should not be an abnormally disease prone one since then a large increase in both average and even maximum lifespan could be obtained by merely reducing disease susceptiblity. This would not imply that similar benefits (or any benefits at all) would accrue to a normal strain of the same species, much less us. So hypertension prone SHR mice are not an option. If an aging intervention works to retard aging only to a limited degree then the experiment will have to last the complete lifespan of the tested animal. In human terms an increase in average lifespan from 75 to 90 might be seen, but only when a similar increase in maximum lifespan from 120 to 135 is obtained will we know that we are onto something interesting. Highly effective anti-aging interventions will not need to be run till the end of the animal lifespan since their average lifespan would exceed species maximum lifespan in any case. In order to generate more data on aging interventions there are two possibilities. (A) Pay a PhD to test short lived animals with a given intervention. (B) Do it oneself. Possibility (A) is ruled out for all except those with exceptionally deep pockets such as the Life Extension Foundation. Even here the pockets are not limitless and to date only a handful of lifespan tests have been conducted. This leaves us with (B). The short lived animals that have been used to date have usually either been rats or mice with lifespans of about three years. The rationale for using these is that they are easily available, short lived and are somewhat similar to humans biochemically, so hopefully the aging process may be similarly modifiable in both. The main problem with starting out with rats or mice is that they are still relatively long lived animals and lifespan experiments with them will be expensive and time consuming, even if one conducts the experiments oneself as a long term hobby. However arguments which prefer mice to men for experimentation apply to mice as well as men. There do exist animal species with much shorter lifespans than mice. We want results and we want them fast and with little trouble. If some intervention works very well in a really short lived animal, an experiment to verify this in mice can be conducted later on. Which would be the best very short lived species to deal with?. No mammals fit the bill. The fruit fly drosophilia melanogaster is a very short lived animal (70 days average) that has probably seem more work done on it than all of the other very short lived animals put together. Some others that have seen some work are nematodes, rotifiers and various water fleas. In order to be easy to work with I limit species to only those that are easily visible to the naked eye. This eliminates nematodes and rotifiers. Water fleas have the advantage of not flying away, but the massive research (and availability of instant fly food from Carolina Biologicals) argued rather convincingly for fruit flies. I am accumulating the apparatus needed to commence experimentation with fruit flies now and will regularly issue updates on my progress and results. Some dramatic increases in lifespan have been obtained recently for nematodes (fivefold increase) and for mice (doubled lifespan) using genetic techniques. However I will be restricting my investigating to nontoxic supplements that are available for human consumption initially. In order to make maximum use of my time I plan on using only small numbers of flies to test each supplement so that many of these can be tested as quickly as possible. First consideration will be supplements that have never been tested on any animal species for lifespan prolonging effects. Various theories of aging will also be used to help select supplements so that these theories can be tested as well. One example is biotin. The insulin sensitizing drug chromium picolinate has greatly extended lifespan of a single species of rodent. Biotin is also an insulin sensitizer, so it will be tested to yield data on whether insulin secretion is a reliable aging accelerating factor. I have talked mostly about life extension here, but would like to end with a short monologue on cryonics. As with life extension it would be far more cost effective to do the experiments oneself rather than pay a PhD to do them. Highly involved experiments using complex equipment are not an option for cryonics experimentation for the same reasons only very short lived animal species can be considered for life extension experiments: time and money. With no perfusion equipment only very small animal species can be considered for possible revival after freezing and thawing, since only these could absorb enough cryoprotectant through the skin to make a difference. Small aquatic animals should get first preference since they will not drown in water/cryoprotectant mixtures. Water fleas might be a appropriate species to test. The cryoprotectant used would have to be highly permeable since only the skin is being used for uptake. This rules out sugars for example. The cryoprotectants used or at least their mixtures should not have been tested before to avoid duplication of effort. Glycerol and DMSO can be omitted for this reason. An example of a highly permeable cryoprotectant that has not been tested before (to my knowledge) is triethylene glycol diacetate. This has a membrane permeability rate that is 44 times as fast as glycerol. If anyone is interested in conducting cryonics research please let me know. I can be reached at BETTER LATE THAN NEVER By Doug Skrecky Some attempts to preserve the body of the deceased are somewhat tardy. However there is at least some hope that even delayed action in this regard may be able to save some memories. Cultures derived from glia and astrocyte cells removed from the brains of human corpses have demonstrated only a slight decrease in the rate of successful culturing when the postmortum interval was greater than 20 hours. "Cell Proliferation and the Aging Brain" Age 3: 43-47 1980 IS ADONITOL A SUPERIOR ALTERNATIVE TO GLYCEROL? By Doug Skrecky Adonitol (also called ribitol) is a sugar alcohol with a molecular weight of 152 and a melting point of 102 C. Glycerol by comparison has a molecular weight of 92 and a melting point of 17.8 C. Although glycerol has been much used (and perhaps abused) in cryobiology adonitol has been largely ignored. This may have been a mistake. Rat embryos cryopreserved in 0.3 M glycerol or 0.3 M adonitol have survival rates of 16% and 67% respectively. At 1.0 M glycerol yields a 52% survival, while adonitol yields 88%. *1 However when human sperm is cryopreserved according to procedures optimized for glycerol, mobility recovery was higher in glycerol than for adonitol. *2 When polyols are added to skim milk survival of freeze dried bacteria varied as follows: *3 0.75 M 1.0 M 10% Organism Adonitol Glycerol Skim milk only S. lactis T164 100% 53% 10% S. lactis T215 81 26 9 S. cremoris T162 86 40 12 S. cremoris T55 96 38 10 S. faecium T175 100 5 13 S. thermophilus 98 43 13 L. cremoris 98.3 12 4.6 L. plantarum 100 35 12 L. casei 98.2 32 9 L. murinus 88 41 8 L. fermentum 56 40 1.5 L. leichmanii 87 90 <1 L. bulgaricus 53 2.5 3.6 L. helveticus 49 20 1.4 average: 85 34 7.7 Functional recovery of tissue either cryopreserved or freeze-dried may be higher if adonitol is substituted for glycerol. Adonitol would also be safer than glycerol for long-term storage due to its higher glass transition temperature. *1 "Cryoprotective Effect of Polyols on Rat Embryos During Two-Step Freezing" Cryobiology Vol.29 332-341 1992 *2 "Evidence that Membrane Stress Contributes More Than Lipid Peroxidation to Sublethal Cryodamage in Cryopreserved Human Sperm: Glycerol and Other Polyols as Sole Cryoprotectant" Journal of Andrology Vol.14 No.3 199-209 1993 *3 "Protective Effect of Adonitol on Lactic Acid Bacteria Subjected to Freeze-Drying" Applied and Environmental Microbiology Vol.45 No.1 302-304 1983 INHIBITING GLYCEROL TOXICITY By Doug Skrecky Glycerol is metabolized to formaldehyde by living tissue. In isolated rat liver microsomes BHT, DMSO, mannitol, SOD ,trolox and vitamin E had no effect on glycerol catalyzed formaldehyde production. However at a dosage of 0.01 mM the iron chelators desferrioxamine, DTPA and EDTA as well as the antioxident propyl gallate inhibited formaldehyde production by 95%, 88% 86% and 91% respectively. Since the lipid soluable propyl gallate alone has the ability to readily penetrate cell membranes it is the clear first choice to protect against glycerol toxicity. It appears that the addition of propyl gallate to all glycerol soltuions currently used by cryobiologists and cryonics companies is mandates. Reference: "Role of Iron, Hydrogen Peroxide and Reactive Oxygen Species in Microsomal Oxidation of Glycerol to Formaldehyde" Archives of Biochemistry and Biophysics Vol.285 No.1 83-89 February 15,1991 [Question: Has any cryonics company started adding 0.01 mM propyl gallate to their cryopreservation mix?] XEROGEL VACCUUM INSULATION By Doug Skrecky A new solid xerogel vaccuum insulation is in development at Dow Chemical Company. Xerogels are microcellular solids prepared by evaporation of solvents from a solvent/polymer gel. They resemble styrofoam, but have a much finer cell structure, which is interconnected or "open" to the external environment. They are potentially less expensive than similar so-called aerogels since the later requires more expensive supercritical evaporation at carefully controlled temperatures and pressures. Xerogels are somewhat denser than aerogels since increased surface tension causes some shrinkage during drying. Under a soft vaccuum xerogels have a higher conductivity than silica vaccuum powder insulation, but below 1.5 torr have a slightly lower conductivity. Unlike aerogels, xerogels are a potential replacement for vaccuum powders in high performance insulation systems since the construction advantages of their monolithic form are not offset by a higher price. This might make storage containers for cryonics patients (or cryostats) less expensive to build. Reference: "Microcellular Polyurea Xerogels for Use in Vacuum Panels" Journal of Cellular Plastics Vol.32 172-190 March 1996 For more information contact: Rick L. Tabor The Dow Chemical Company Polyurethanes Products Research Laboratory Building B-1608 Freeport, TX 77541 Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=7776