X-Message-Number: 787 From: Subject: Re: cryonics: #780 - #786 Date: Fri, 1 May 92 01:32:54 PDT I was not surprised at the report of Dr. Gerard K. O'Neill's death. Both Eric Drexler and I have known about his medical problems for several years. Eric worked closely with Jerry (as he was known to his friends) during the mid 70s. Both of us talked at different times to him about the cryonics option after he became sick. I believe my last conversation with him was in 1989 when he was in remission, but had a wrecked immune system. Jerry was quite aware of nanotechnology, but I suspect never quite accepted it. He had his son (an MD) check out the medical and cryonics applications and received a not unfavorable report. At least one of the people at his Space Studies Institute was a nanotech/cryonics fan who tried to get him to consider it. And he still would have nothing to do with cryonics. His particular objection (as stated to me) was the classic liberal guilt meme, "We have had our time on the stage of life, and it is our duty to die and get out of the way." You see this evidenced by so many of the Humanist persuasion. I think Jerry sometimes thought of himself as Moses, having seen the promised land, but never to set foot in it. In spite of the enormous kink Jerry's space colony meme put in my life, I never related well to him personally. His loss is not as hard on me as that of Robert Heinlein. Heinlein came from an economic and cultural background similar to that of my parents, and, from my experiences with him on the board of L-5 Society, he was just about as reliable a person as one of his heros. O'Neill came from an eastern Brahman background and what with him being a lofty physics professor at Princeton, and me being a lowly engineer from Arizona, that was just too much of a cultural gap to bridge. Eventually you get accustom to the unavoidable fact that where other people are involved your influence over events is limited. If they want to die, there simply is not anything you can do about it. R.I.P. Jerry. Keith Henson Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=787