X-Message-Number: 8026
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 11:34:37 -0700
From: John Roscoe <>
Subject: In response to Olaf Henry
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Allan Turing himself once defined "Artificial Intelligence" as:
"Whatever Artificial Intelligence researchers have not yet
accomplished." 
   This dynamic "donkey with a carrot on a stick" definition goes a long
way to describe how people are still poo-pooing the feild, even after
the ground breaking work of Dr. Lotfi Zadeh in Fuzzy set theory, as well
as the work being done by others with neural nets and holographic
patterning etc, etc.
   Olaf, keep your ant away from its colony for a while and see how long
it lasts. You will find that without help the poor little begger won't
be able to keep itself alive for very long at all. And why? Because it's
not intellectually complete without it's little buddies. I think you
called it a "hive mentality", quite so.
   Similarly: You can't chase a neuron across the kitchen floor (which
is good, 'cause the difference in scale would make our heads bigger than
football stadiums), but you can make it "fire": stimulate this dendron
here and "bang!" goes the axion (provided that the stimulous was of
adequate potential). 
			AND 
   Get that ant under a microscope and stimulate her/him and you shall
observe a similiar effluent, a chemical instead of an electrical
discharge. The "language" of ants is to ant colonies what the "language"
of neurons is to individual people. The number, rank and position of
ants decides the colony's "personality." Ipso facto de humanis.
   Am I saying that ants are dumb, but ant colonies are self-aware?
Well, sure! I mean, if our definition of self-awareness is that the
entity in question makes decisions for its self; for its own continued
well being, then yes, ant colonies are sentient and self aware.
Decisions bubble up from democratic fermonal processes deep within the
masses and become clear, tangable objectives and actions on the
surface.  
   Let us not be misguided by this jeleous anthropomorphism that makes
us arbitrarily deny the existence of sentience in anything but
ourselves. I agree with Olaf, rabbits are self aware. So are ants that
scurry away from danger. So are curling irons that shut themselves off
if they get too hot. As well as automotive suspension systems that
adjust to changing road conditions, etc, etc. It seems that
self-awareness is, of itself, not such a big deal. Anticlimactic? Sure.
But the real challenge is to emulate the complexity and dynamism of the
electro-chemical processes between human neurons placed "just so." The
prize? Longevity in the blink of an eye. 

> If truly intelligent computers would ever 
> develop consciousness, *then* we would have the mother of all 
> wars on our hands.

   Truly intelligent, conscious computers would move so much faster than
us that our world would seem as static, unchanging and generally as
predictable as a starry night sky seems to us. They might refer to us as
navigational landmarks: "...Turn left at Smith and the wall socket is
behind Jones." I say this wise-assedly because I can conceive of no good
reason for an AI to even inhabit the same spacial plane, never mind the
same temporal plane. A trillion "human years" could flit past in the
twinkle of a processor; civilizations could rise and fall so quickly in
the machine that us "skin-bag" folk would be forever playing catch-up,
analyzing their histories in post-mortem. 
   War? What for? A prerequisite would be some mutually required 
resource, would it not? Existing in an entirely different dimention, as
described above, what reason could there be for a battle? To rule the
world? 
   Pardon if I sound Miltonesque, but would you like to reign supreme
over a civilization of slobbering, droopy, slow-moving, slow-witted,
short-lived, goofy-assed turtle people? For surely that is how we shall
seem to the thinking machines.
  

-- 
John Roscoe

"I am certain that there is a name for my disorder, 
but it is the one thing that I do not wish to know."

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