X-Message-Number: 8081 Date: Tue, 15 Apr 97 12:43:32 From: Mike Perry <> Subject: CRYONICS Re: CryoNet #8069 - #8079 To Scott Painter, aka Mike C., thanks for providing the information. I hope you get signed up soon. To Peter Merel: thanks for your comments and your web address on the "self-determination" problem. I'll try to check it out soon. To Charles Platt: Any speculation about the future will have a fictional component, and especially when we are contemplating some particularly radical change, such as the elimination of biological aging. (And the latter does involve ourselves becoming more than human, by any reasonable projection that I can imagine.) In any case, I endorse and support the call of Kevin Brown, Steve Bridge, Paul Wakfer and numerous others for more cryonics research now. You may have misunderstood the thrust of my comment about Kevin Brown's posting, which was to argue that it would be to our advantage to return to life (i.e. an animate state) earlier rather than later, even if "our friends of the future" have only good intentions toward us. We do need better cryonics technology now. To imply, as I did, that we'd be among those to "shape and govern" the world of the future (as should every healthy person then present) also needs justification--another time. To Olaf Henny: Thanks for the additional information on the problems with governments. Hopefully the march of technological progress cannot be stopped in any case. There are just too many "cracks in the dike" for the myopic mentalities of antiquated institutions to plug, however much they might wish to do so. But they can slow us down, which could be bad for us individually. Again to Olaf Henny: you say "The notion of immortality is at this time ridiculous anyhow." I disagree, but I think I understand where you're coming from, and I've devoted a lot of space recently to airing my point of view, so I'll close for now. Mike Perry Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=8081