X-Message-Number: 8158
Date:  Wed, 30 Apr 97 13:36:08 
From: Mike Perry <>
Subject: CRYONICS Patterns and Reality

Thomas Donaldson, #8154, wrote

>The fundamental error Mike makes, and it is an error, though a very
>common one, is to believe that the interpretation his brain (and yes,
>my brain too) gives to the world IS the world. Patterns are not in the
>world, they are in our brains. And yes, mathematics IS universal ---
>in OUR science and OUR technology, both of which proceed from (guess
>what) our brains as they meet reality, which we inevitably see quite
>indirectly.

Again, I think patterns are not just in our brains, even if we do see 
the world indirectly, which I agree we do.

I wrote, #8010 (7 Apr.),

>A large part of scientific history suggests we are building up
>a body of knowledge about reality that is truly telling us
>"how it is."

And I stand by that.

Mike Perry

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