X-Message-Number: 8399 From: (Thomas Donaldson) Subject: Re: answers to Andrew Davidson Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 12:42:04 -0700 (PDT) Hi again! Technically speaking, I should let either Gary Meade (Chairman of Alcor's Patient Fund Trustees) or Fred Chamberlain (current President of Alcor) answer this enquiry. However as a trustee myself I still have something to say. This trust was set up to care for the funds Alcor receives for upkeep of suspended patients. For various legal reasons, which I will go into if necessary but not here, it took some time to set up. However it provides one more protection for these funds. The CURRENT income on these funds will vary depending on the market; they are invested with several different managers. The smallest returns come from fixed income funds (deliberately chosen for safety) and average about 6.5%. The largest returns come from sharemarket funds, averaging about 20%. The most important fact about these funds is that you retain complete control of your assets while you remain alive. You have merely given Alcor the right to them AFTER YOUR SUSPENSION. Some people have paid upfront, but that is comparatively rare. This means that there is no issue at all about getting your money back if you change your mind: your money remains with you so long as you are ABLE to change your mind. Alcor does have a yearly dues for suspension members which comes to about $300. This is NOT returnable. It should not be: it is these dues which (among several other things) pay for Alcor to be ready to suspend you on an instant's notice, anywhere in the world. Dues and donations also help Alcor improve its abilities to do this; one of the latest improvements now being worked on is electronic warning systems which you might have at your house or even wear, which call Alcor if you seem to be in trouble. While you are a member of Alcor, you receive these services, and pay for them with (at a minimum) your dues. If you choose no longer to be a member, the former services will cease, but you have already paid for them. One lack which all the cryonics organizations have is that of funds for extreme emergency services. For instance, if you are visiting France and need suspension, it will not be inexpensive to get you out of France and bring you to the Alcor facility or a hospital nearby. Suspension members are expected to provide means for Alcor to access the needed funds to do this, independently of the funds they have allocated for their suspension. (The problem with using life insurance here is that the standby may cost lots of money but turn out to be a false alarm --- and someone must pay for it regardless). At one time I had a policy with Lloyd's of London, but that policy is now defunct. If enough suspension members of all the different societies existed, then such insurance policies could be written (rather than life insurance, you might call them severe danger insurance!). That has not yet happened, but will do so eventually (the cryonics societies are increasing their membership constantly). These funds, also, are not returnable because no one has taken them from you. As with your funding for suspension, you have simply set up things legally so that Alcor can use such funds if needed but not otherwise. I believe this may help answer your questions. Long long life, Thomas Donaldson Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=8399