X-Message-Number: 8709 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 17:57:17 -0500 (EST) From: Charles Platt <> Subject: Marketing Responding to Steve Jackson's letter: Marketing cryonics has always been problematic. Fundamentally the whole idea of it is suspect, because in effect we are selling something that doesn't exist yet. "You're like space enthusiasts selling a trip to Mars," a friend of mine once complained. "You don't have a spaceship. You don't even know how a spaceship can be built. You just have the IDEA for a spaceship." Ideally of course the marketing effort bootstraps cryonics by attracting wealthy members who then pay for the research that will make reversible, zero-damage cryopreservation possible. Thus, by selling itself somewhat prematurely, cryonics ultimately hopes to legitimize itself. I believe this has always been Robert Ettinger's scenario, and it was the scenario put forward by Michael Cloud at the Alcor Technology Conference. I used to subscribe to this viewpoint myself, and I certainly put in a lot of time and effort (with reasonable success) promoting Alcor. But I'm not sure that I like the idea of promotion anymore. Sometime during the past 5 or 6 years, perhaps when I saw one too many photomicrographs showing the degree of damage caused by a "good" cryopreservation, I lost some of my enthusiasm for selling cryonics. Since there is now a research effort being underwritten at almost $1 million per year, plus a separate project to raise millions of dollars for other research, maybe (as Paul Wakfer suggested at the technology conference) we should concentrate on research first, and then use its _results_ to promote cryonics. Incidentally, Steve Jackson refers darkly to an organization that made use of Alcor's membership list to send out a mailing. Steve Bridge once told me that like most organizations, Alcor maintains some "dummy entries" in its database. If any unauthorized person used the list, the dummy entries are people who would pass the mail back to Alcor, thus revealing that the list had been used. So far as I know, nothing of this kind has ever happened. Perhaps someone at Alcor can confirm this. --Charles Platt Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=8709