X-Message-Number: 9198 From: Thomas Donaldson <> Subject: Re: CryoNet #9187 - #9190 Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 00:16:40 -0800 (PST) Hi again! One reason I personally have been interested in survival of memories is that there is a good case that everything ELSE about us will survive cryonic suspension. As for just what I remember or you remember, that too is a marker for our individuality. You could not be in the position you are in if you literally had no memory at all. Moreover, I doubt very much that everything but the facts and methods of aerospace engineering (AND some ability to speak at least one language, AND the ability to find your way to the Men's Room, AND many other things about your life) is missing. So you do have memories, and someone without those memories might not be you --- even if identical genetically. And yes, we will no doubt forget many things. But we will learn others, and remember others, as we go along. There are events in my life which have stuck with me for at least 50 years (I'm now 54), and others I have forgotten. Your memories do not have to remain permanently there to characterize you as an individual. I'll even go so far as to say that (unless you've led a very quiet and uneventful life) you've probably had experiences which will stick with you for hundreds of years. But it is our memories at the time of our suspension which characterize us, and similarly for any other time. As time passes, we'll probably accumulate other marks to show our history, too. As for NAMES, the brain circuits for them seem to be different from those for other memories, and they aren't the only class of things for which that's true. So an inability to remember names may even say something about the structure of your brain. If you remember running around with this other person, but not his name, that is memory too. (Incidentally, I myself suffered a brain tumor, with brain damage, in 1988, and my own memory for names went WAY down for a while --- though some of it has recovered. But I still have lots of memories of other kinds). So that is what I have to say to your question. It may not be a direct answer, but it may at least tell you what I think on this matter. Best wishes and long long life, Thomas Donaldson Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=9198