X-Message-Number: 924 From: Subject: Alcor Nevada Minutes Date: Mon, 22 Jun 92 20:47:19 PDT ALCOR NEVADA MINUTES SUNDAY JUNE 14TH 5:00 PM - 7:00 PM Mary Beth Richard Kars Ken Messer Larry K. Covey Eric Klien Carlos Mondragon Kenneth Fox Don Laughlin Douglas Nusbaum Art Gerstztyn Tony Lewis Micke' Reynolds Katie Kars Don McLain Jerry Searcy Change of Date The Alcor business meeting in California has been moved up a week because of the Fourth of July weekend. Therefore the Alcor Nevada meeting has been moved up a week to the third Sunday in July to avoid a conflict with that meeting. Subscriptions Expire A subscription to these minutes requires either a payment of 75 cents/issue or for a subscriber to occasionally show up at meetings. I will be generous with the second requirement for long distance subscribers. The following people's subscriptions expire with this issue unless they either send money or attend the next meeting: Tamara Clark, Michael Emerling, Ken Kramer, and Jeanne Maust. Special Guests Charles Platt and his soon-to-be wife, Susan, will attend our next meeting. Charles's article in a recent issue of Omni has so far generated over 1100 responses to Alcor. He is now working on a book about the people involved in cryonics. Tanya Jones, our newest Alcor employee, plans on attending our next meeting. I wouldn't be surprised if she brought Ralph Whelan, editor of Cryonics and former Alcor Boston member with her. David Greenstein, an Alcor Boston member, originally was going to attend this meeting but was unable to accommodate the change in meeting date. He will attend the Alcor business meeting in California instead. EMTs Jerry and I had our EMT training date changed once again by Mercy Ambulance. We were first going to train in August, then the date was changed to October. The date was finally changed to June 2nd. That's right; Jerry and I have already begun training and are nearly half way through the course. Don Laughlin brought some of his employees to our meeting to discuss training. Carlos Mondragon, Alcor's president, was a surprise guest and handled many questions by the employees. I handed out my copies of "Cryonics - Reaching For Tomorrow" to them. I have also ordered 20 more copies for future meetings. He will have more of his employees attend our next meeting. At the meeting it was asked if the employees would be on 24 hour call and for what area would they be responsible. The answer was that they would be on 24 hour call for Southern Nevada. I asked Carlos how many times such situations had occurred during Alcor's 20 year history and the answer was twice. So we shouldn't be participating in too many emergencies. After the meeting I was asked how could EMTs use drugs like Heparin since only paramedics are authorized to use such drugs. The answer is that we are working on patients who are legally dead. Another question asked was how could we store such medicines if we aren't legally allowed to use them on legally alive people. The answer is that Alcor has received prescriptions for these drugs for medical research. I have contacted a local official in the Nevada government to double check and make sure that we are violating no Nevada laws. I would be surprised if there are any problems as we have suspension kits in heavily regulated states such as California and New York and quite socialist governments like Australia and the U.K. [ FYI: I hear from a resident of the UK that the "UK has changed considerably in the last few years! In some ways, it's much more free-market than the US." The characterization above thus may be out-of-date. - KQB ] After one group of Don Laughlin's employees have passed at least level one EMT training, I will arrange a training session with Alcor. I hope to have a minimum of nine people in our first training session composed of Eric Klien, Cindy Piturka, Jerry Searcy and 6 employees. Based on the amount of employees that attended our last meeting, we may end up training quite a bit more than 6 employees. (Only one of his three shifts attended.) My overall goal is to eventually train people at as high a medical level as possible. While, level one EMTs will be fine to begin with, having people who are level two EMTs or paramedics would be even better. One employee mentioned that he had an expired level two EMT license, so I wouldn't be surprised if a few of the employees quickly reached advanced medical training. ABBREVIATED EMERGENCY INSTRUCTIONS FOR STABILIZATION OF ALCOR CRYONIC SUSPENSION PATIENTS Following are the instructions for what Alcor will be training us to do. We can consider learning the non abbreviated instructions in the future which are for situations where the patient has been legally dead less than 60 minutes. I am reprinting these instructions to help the employees on this mailing list get an idea of what we will be doing in the future. [Removed from electronic version of minutes] Doctors I called the doctor that Frank Ujlakie recommended and he didn't return my call. I would recommend that Frank speak to him when the doctor visits his bookstore again. Recruiting Members The Las Vegas Review-Journal ran my free ad for a third time. It *again failed but I will run it again next month. I just spoke to Lonnie Hammargren, a locally famous person in charge of the Southern Nevada Astronomical Society. He agreed that I could speak to his group on July 1st at 7:30 PM. If anyone wishes to attend the meeting I will provide you with directions. I will contact Tanya at Alcor and inquire about their available slide presentation. Certificates of Religious Belief Jerry Searcy and I had our wallet sized certificates of religious belief laminated and now have one more layer of protection against coroners and other officials. Hydergine Carlos mentioned that when his father started to get old, he complained of being unable to read the newspaper. He could see the words but he couldn't understand them. This bothered him a lot because reading the paper from front to back was a favorite habit of his. He was given a prescription of Hydergine and this corrected his problem. So Hydergine does have some ability to improve brain circulation. Vial of Life I passed around the Vials of Life that I received for free at the local Sav On Drugs store. You are supposed to put medical information in these vials and stick them inside your refrigerator door. You then place a large Vial of Life label on your front door and a smaller label on the front of your refrigerator. You are also given a wallet card which I won't be using because I prefer my certificate of religious belief. For additional information call 229-3508. Aquatred This tire available from Goodyear was recommended by Richard Kars. Not only is it good for staying on the roads in the rain but he found that it helps keep the car on the road during sharp turns. Considering how slippery the roads get in Nevada when it rains, it would be a good idea if all cryonicists in Nevada bought such tires or similar ones. This tire lists for $125 and sells for $105. He also mentioned that Consumer Reports said that Michelein tires were unsafe despite their commercials. The Seed Of The Woman Charlie Hartman should give me the publisher's and author's name for this book. Tanya Jones is interested in this book that we could use for religious groups. Word Processor If anyone has a word processor for sale, Forrest W. Munden in Phoenix, Arizona is looking for one. I will be glad to provide his phone number to interested parties. Next Meeting Our next meeting will be on the third Sunday of next month, July 19th, at 5:00 PM at the executive office in the Riverside casino in Laughlin, Nevada. Take 95 south from Las Vegas, through Henderson, where it forks between 95 and 93. Bear right at the fork and stay on 95 past Searchlight until you reach the intersection with 163 a little before the border with California. Go left on 163 and stay on it until you see signs for Laughlin. You can't miss the Riverside Casino in Laughlin, Nevada. For more information, call Eric Klien at (702) 255-1355. I'll be car pooling there with other Las Vegans. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=924