X-Message-Number: 9647
Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 03:16:04 -0400
From: Mike Darwin <>
Subject: Halperin's proposal

RE:     Halperin's proposal

Jim Halperin has asked for comments and criticisms of his proposal.  I'll
start by saying that I agree almost completely with much of the previous
criticism.  I think most of the commentary has been thoughtful and
on-point.  Of course, I'll add a few points of my own, but I don't expect
them to count for much with Mr. Halperin (for reasons I'll get to near the
end of this  post).

First the more straightforward ones:

One problem I've observed over the years in attempts to increase both organ
and tissue donation is the barrier that  inhibition of the free market
represents.  When I started work as a dialysis tech I was used as a scout
to scour the ICUs and CCCUs for potential donors for harvest.  I also
participated in some harvests when I worked at Methodist Hospital in
Indianapolis.  I knew Lynne Driver and Larry Lloyd (the transplant
coordinators) very well, and Larry was my immediate supevisior for some
years. Methodist had one of the highest organ procurement rates in the
region, indeed in the U.S.  There were many reasons for this which I won't
go into, but suffice it to say I've observed that other centers are STILL
only now learning the lessons that Lynne and his team had long ago learned.

The point of this digression was that a point of law got in the way of a
_lot_ of harvesting, especially from lower class  urban minority patients
who constitute the largest untapped pool: who else gets hit on the head
with a baseball bat or shot in the head so much????

That point of law is a very touchy one which states in effect "I (the
person making the gift) have received no remuneration whatsoever in
conjunction with making this anatomical donation."  The law specifically
charged the recipient organization with paying the donor's usual and
customary funeral costs, but that was it.  Any attempt to do more (offer a
glitzier funeral, pay other expenses, offer medical care, or even benefit
potential donors during their lifetimes with access to better medical care
or other advantages was vigorously attacked.

I know this still to be the case because 21CM has been preparing research
protocols for CPR-related work where chest morphology demands that humans
be used for suction cup type thumpers (CPR machines) and we have been
extensively advised on the sensitivity of this issue.  Since these
negotiations are ongoing with several institutions, I raised Jim's idea
with their legal counsel; they were of the opinion that offering an
incentive like the one Jim proposes constitutes a violation of the
specially enacted congressional ban against the "selling of human organs or
tissues" and that it would violate the no compensation provisionms of
Uniform Anatomical Gift Act (which is anything but "uniform")  in most
states.

Another problem is that solid organ donors, which are those most
desperately needed (heart , kidney and other thoracic and abdominal organs)
excluding the minorities problems mentioned above, are most often lost
because of the following reasons:

1) First and foremost is inadequate preservation technologies.  Most hearts
are not even harvested from the same donor who provides kidneys.  We just
didn't bother with most of them because the preservation time is only 4
hours to 6 hours MAXIMUM.  The logistics of transport and the need to
closely match the SIZE of the organ to the recipient frustrated harvesting.

2) Lungs are damn near impssible to preserve well.  They also don't do well
on transplant, but that's mostly because they preserve so poorly that the
donor literally has to be "beating heart" and in the next OR for the
harvest.  This means that clinicians haven't gained experience overcoming
the surgical problems attendant tolung transplantation (bronchial
non-unions and infection) largely through lack of opportunity to hone their
skills because so few transplants are done. Lungs also experience
re-implantation injury which complicates their acute function (which is
essential to the survival of the recipient).  This is largely an
immune-inflammatory response problem which is rapidly being solved by
pharmacological intervention in the researh lab; but the preservation and
transportation problems remain.

3) By far the largest untapped pool of donors are DOAs', people who arrest
shortly AFTER arriving at the hospital and who cannot be or are not GOOD
candidates for resuscitation.  A recent issue of the Lancet reports on
post-mortem transplant of such kidneys with good success. 
Ischemia-reperfusion treatment protocols promise to open up this huge pool
of donors.  But again, preservation technologies are critical since most
organs are harvested with many hours or days of notice and with tissue
typing starting BEFORE harvesting, buying much needed time. 

The exception is the heart.   Because preservation times are so short
hearts are matched ONLY for ABO and Rh blood groups; there is NO tissue
typing for hearts.  As a result, hearts are rejected far more frequently
than other organs.

4) Thomas Starzl, M.D. is the man who single-handedly pounded liver
transplants into reality (please, read his book Puzzle People for a clear,
lay-level and honest account of the herculean animal research effort and
clinical paradigm shift required) to achieve this.  Starzl recently
discovered that donors who don't reject their grafts long-term have
chimeric immune systems.  In other words, the immune system from the donor
hitches a ride in the transplanted organ and colonizes the host!  Starzl
has demonstrated that in cases where you have a number of weeks you can
frequently produce such a state of chimeric tolerance in recipients,
bringing the number of organs rejected to vanishingly small levels and
almost eliminating the need for the quality of life degrading drugs used to
control rejection.  Keep in mind a significant number of organs "wasted"
are re-transplants where an organ has been rejected (needlessly) because
good preservation technologies were not available to allow for optimal
immunological preparation of the recipient.
The catch is, of course, you neeed TIME.

The future holds the prospect of transgenic transplantation of genetically
engineered animal organs and I think the prospects for the heart and a few
other organs are good using this technology (not so for the liver which
makes to many custom, workable only in human proteins: thus only human
livers will do for replacements).

 This means that transplantion will shift increasingly to quality of life
organs; putting human-source organs in either the oldest or youngest
patients, the best or the worst (depending upon how good the transgenic
organs turn out to be). Better preservation technologies would also open up
transplanting tissues like limbs, hands, breasts,  penises, scalp and
craniofacial tissues whose destruction occur in staggering numbers anually
and whose victims just have to "live" with the resultant mutilation and
disability because a) there are no large banks of matchable tissues, and b)
the risks of immunosupression currently poses too great a theat to life. 
Countless women undergo mutilating mastectomies and I've observed, in my
own brief acute care clinical career no fewer than ca. 20 young men who
have lost their penises due to thermal/chemical  burns (everything from
high tension line work to industrial accients and mechanical injury
(largely industrial and vehicular) and cancer or the side effects of 
"localized" radiotherapy.  The quality of theses men's lives is often
devastated with, in my experience, wives and girlfiends frequently leaving
them (something, oddly enough, I saw far more than with women undergoing
mastectomies).  Limb amputations and digit loses speak for themselves both
in terms of commoness, visibility and disability.

These tissues simply are not transplanted because good preservation
technologies do not exist.

5) Tissue-engineering is BIG business and will help millions of people with
horrible burns, missing ears and other seriously damaged peripheral
tissues.  Some companies have started to ship product already which will
alleviate suffering from burns so profoundly there are no words to describe
it.  What is one of their major problems?  You guessed it; lack of high
quality preservation procedures.

6) In the 3rd world there are sharp limits to upregulating herd quality of
indigenous animals used for food and work because artificial insemination
(AI) techniques, to be effective, require cryopreserved sperm and, to be
most effective, embryos too.  Sperm cryopreservation alone has brought the
average American dairy cow from producing a few hundreds of pounds of milk
per year to producing tems of thousands of pounds!  All on the same calorie
intake.  In fact, Steve Bridge's father ran an AI business that provided
the frozen sperm that created the prize winning cow Ellen who, I believe,
produced 250,000 pounds of high quality milk and cream in one year!!!!!

The development of cryoprotectants that allow dry ice storage of sperm
would revolutionize the quality of life in countries where high-tech LN2
freezing, storage and transport of sperm are not possible.  LN2 exists in
developed countries as a byproduct of a huge industrial infrastructure,
producing liquified gases for industrial (metallurgical) and medical
applications.  Dry ice is, by contrast, cheap and easy to make and
transport.

The point I'm making here  is that the way to maximize transplantation AND
improve the number of 
people being cryopreserved is to improve the technology through research. 
And we are  not talking theoretical research, but rather appllied research
with direct technological application.

No,. I am not foolish enough to believe that successful reversible
cryoprerservation of the brain or clinically applied cryopreservation of
the kidney, heart or liver will "sell" cryonics to the GENERAL public.  No
such thing.  But, I do believe based on considerable prior experience that
each one of these advances brings a new and higer quality cohort of people
into cryonics.  Already, cryonics groups have a disproportionate numbers of
physicians as members.  The number of physicians and other technically
sophisticated and high quality minds will grow as the barriers to be
overcome change from theoretical ones (Is the information REALLY there? 
Can nanotechnolgy be implemented in a reasonable time frame? Can it do what
its theoriticians say it will?, etc.) to more purely technological ones:
OK, the brain is sitting there intact and so are most of the organs.  At
least I'm still basically ME after they finish preserving me.  One more big
unnown eliminated, one more cohort persuaded.

Ralph Merkle has a graph of Alcor's growth versus time.  That growth begins
about 6 months after I took over as President and continues until a short
while after Jerry Leaf dies and and the split off of CryoCare.  Jerry had
been on scene for several years before I arrived, and he had critical
technical and interpersonal skills (basically you didn't fuck with Jerry
and everybody knew that--sorry, there is no other word to use).  The
combination of Jerry, Hugh Hixon , myself and later Saul Kent,  Carlos
Mondragon and BRENDA PETERS (with much off-site inpit from Steve Bridge who
continued to edit CRYONICS during the my first few years running Alcor)
STIMULATED rapid growth.

As Saul has pointed out, a keystone of that growth was the provision of
framework for research and progress which was palpable, exciting and, truly
world changing.  People could see methods improving by objective criteria
they could understand, and they could easily be a part of it.  Hell, we had
secretaries (day job) doing OR work and computer people assisting with
surgery.  The atmosphere was like the model rocket societies of the 20's
and 30's.

Nanotechnology furthered that goal.  What is NOT generally understood is
that in the two years prior to writing Engines of Creation Drexler had a
gift subscription to CRYONICS (given by Lee Gabriel of ACS, I believe).  He
has personally told me that those two years of getting CRYONICS were
instrumental in his including his chapter on cryonincs in his book and on
shaping his thinking about the feasibility of cryonics.  Hugh Hixon and I
both provided many pages of commentary on Drexler's orginal manuscript
(entitled The Future By Design) and many of those comments CAN BE FOUND in
Engines.

 At that time, I did not have the data I have now about how badly brain
tissue (selectively, I might add) is injured by freezing, let alone
thawing.  At that time we were relying on fragmentary and, as it turned
out, inappropriate studies done on not very relevant animal models (such as
Suda's work, Pascoe's work, and the work of kidney and heart
cryopreservationists).  As it turns out, the injury to brains was far worse
than I imagined possible under the worst of circumstances.  But, we did not
know that at the time.

So, where is all this leading?  To a conclusion I have found to be nearly
useless: trying to persuade people to spend their money on something they
don't really have their heart set on.  To Jim Halperin I would say, your
idea is the hard way to do what you want to do.  There are lots of better
ways to spend you money, many (believe it or not!) NOT involving 21CM which
in my not so humble opinion will provide you with faster, lower resistance,
higher yieldd pathways to success.

However, I'll end by saying I've never changed anybody's idea about a pet
project that they *believed in*.  But you asked for a critique, and there,
you got it :-).

Good luck whatever course you choose.

Mike Darwin

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