X-Message-Number: 9740 Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 09:43:07 -0400 From: Thomas Donaldson <> Subject: CryoNet #9731 - #9739 To Charles Platt: Your message seems to ignore the fact that in mine I pointed out that we should support research to improve our suspension methods. No one else is doing so --- so that research falls on us. After all, whatever the disease or condition, it is only research which will eventually find a cure. If (in some hypothetical world which does not exist) other noncryonics groups were busily researching means to improve suspensions and revive people damaged by their suspension I would argue differently. I have felt that we should do much more research to improve our suspension methods for as long as I have been signed up with a cryonics society. About cryonics for profit: At present there are very few providers of cryonics services, and few customers. Most theories of economics which I know (including free market theories) start from a hypothesis that there are many providers and many customers. Such a situation IS likely to show the positive features of capitalism. Someday for-profit cryonics societies may exist, just as there are now for-profit insurance companies. However they are unlikely to work well in the present situation. There is also another, more blunt evaluation of the fate of TT. Not all for profit companies in a capitalistic economy succeed. Especially in the early stages, some either go bust or leave their initial market to do something else. TT left the market to become an investment holding company. This is entirely in accord with economic theory. TT found that it could not make a profit from cryonics and so took up another activity. Finally I will point out that even economic libertarians do not insist that ALL activities be done by profit-making companies. There is no reason why libertarians cannot join together in a cooperative society to achieve collective aims. As I understand that philosophy, it consists of a criticism of GOVERNMENT activities, not a belief that everything be done by a profit-making society. Best and long long life for all, Thomas Donaldson Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=9740