X-Message-Number: 9742
Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 15:04:19 +0100
From:  (John de Rivaz)
Subject: Re: Cryonics on ther web and more

In article: <> Thomas Donaldson writes:
> 
> About overloading the Earth with cryonicists:
(del re calculating space needed to freeze large no.s of people)
> You may be surprised by the result. And if you don't want to do
> such calculations, write to the Immortality Society (Bob Ettinger's
> group) and by THE PROSPECT OF IMMORTALITY. Ettinger did these
> calculations himself, long ago.

the entire text is on the www. The url of the start is
<http://www.cryonics.org/book1.html>

> And it is relatively cheap to keep abreast of what the societies 
> are doing, individually and collectively. There is Cryonet, and
> also several periodicals such as THE IMMORTALIST and CRYONICS and
> THE VENTURIST. 

There is a lot about cryonics on the www, including most of what 
was ever written in Longevity Report

<http://www.longevb.demon.co.uk/lr.htm>

> And Alcor, at least, has a paper you can sign that does not
> sign you up for suspension but indicates that you hope to do so
> some day

What a good idea. I had not heard that one before. I suppose there is a 
risk, though, that someone may sign that and never go any further.

In article: <> Jim Yount writes:
> Saul Kent and Bill Faloon are currently supporting about $1,000,000 a year
> in cryonics related research through 21st Century Medicine.  If Trans Time
> were to provide just $500,000 of its hoarded $1.8 million and add it to
> Saul and Bill's money, this capital influx might make a huge difference to
> the pace of progress of cryonics research.  THAT would be the real
> "tremendous return"!  Let's compound CRYONICS RESEARCH 143%!  THAT is what
> Trans Time was originally about.  THAT is what it should be about still.


I am not sure how capital gains tax penalties on successful investment are 
levied in the USA, but I gather they are severe. I do not know whether the 
figures Dr Quaife quoted in an earlier article were pre or post the tax penalty 
on success. If 21CM were to go public, then 21CM shares would probably ride the 
same roller coaster ride that most small bio companies follow. (Look how 
BioTime's quotation shot up when exaggerated news stories about frozen apes went
the rounds - not their fault, as far as I can 
gather, but it is back down again now.)


If therefore TT bought the $1/2m worth of 21CM shares and it went wrong, then 
they could use the loss to offset gains it may otherwise be prudent to realise 
and then re-purchase the shares, which would probably re-gain their public 
esteem once the next promising news item hits the main news media.

-- 
Sincerely,     * Longevity Report:  http://www.longevb.demon.co.uk/lr.htm
John de Rivaz  * Fractal Report:    http://www.longevb.demon.co.uk/fr.htm
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