X-Message-Number: 9782 From: Subject: RE:Catch-22 References: <> Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 15:07:01 EDT To Tom Donaldson: As I pointed out, I am a member of Foresight Institute. This represents a contribution which might be small to K. Eric Drexler, but is not small to me. I direct my meager resources to nanotechnology rather than cryonics because I feel that cryonics is a long shot, while nanotechnology is a *much* better bet. I base my theory on why people are not signing up for cryonics on my conversations with other people (yes, I talk about futuristic issues with other people, even if I am a doubter about the specific issue). They just don't believe AT ALL that it will work. In a way I am supporting cryonics since I support nanotechnology, which is necessary (but not sufficient) for cryonics to become more than our culture's equivalent of the pyramids holding their mummies. Cryonics would not be the Project Apollo of nanotech, but the Starship Enterprise. Still, if it is to happen at all, nanotechnology is going to be needed. If you think that skepticism of cryonics is not the main stumbling block to its widespread use, than what is? Of the potential market for a service that claims to provide a vastly extended (NOT infinite...see my earlier posting on "immortality", plus the fact even the stars will die) lifespan for the cost of life insurance, why has only one in a million signed up? Why do I keep reading about Gerald O'Neill, Robert Heinlein, Carl Sagan, Isaac Asimov, Nobel prize winner X, and so forth, dying without suspension? If people believed it would work, they would pay, just as they pay for medical treatments to only extend their lives a few years, often painfully (ex, cancer patients). If they don't, then why pay money for a rather odd alternative to a cemetery/urn? Why deprive their survivors of the life insurance? Why do YOU think cryonics doesn't sell? To Saul Kent: Thank you for informing me about your research. But I still think that it will not affect the growth of cryonics until it reaches the point where we finally awaken someone who has "died" and been suspended long term. And then we *still* won't have huge numbers of suspendees. Based on the responses of you and Mr. Donaldson, I will modify my opinion of cryonics long term future if we attain revival. However, cryonics still will be a small niche market, used for "ambulance service" from places like spaceships that do not have proper medical facilities and for the tiny number of people who experience _just enough_ damage not to be treatable but _not quite enough_ to be hopeless. I still think this will be a narrow border region. Tom Mazanec _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=9782