X-Message-Number: 9817 From: Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 12:22:37 EDT Subject: prices, inflation etc. In response to Dr. Hirsch's question about price stability and inflation etc., I'll add a bit to my post yesterday. First I repeat that, as a matter of historical fact, CI prices have never been raised, even in the high inflation years of the late 1970s and early 1980s. Experience is usually a useful first clue, at least. Second, note that, in periods of high inflation, interest rates are also high, meaning invested funds can safely yield high returns. Third, CI pays no rent and services no debt, so is shielded from inflation in those respects. Many services are provided by members without pay, and inflation will still leave those costs at zero. Our fixed costs are relatively low and could, if absolutely necessary, be brought down to almost nothing except taxes, insurance, utilities, liquid nitrogen, and routine maintenance. Fourth, we have already begun to achieve some economies of scale, with larger cryostats. Although one cannot confidently make projections based on small numbers, still it seems fairly clear that things are picking up. The CI patient population has doubled in the last three years, and inquiries are becoming somewhat more frequent. More speculatively, when we grow enough we may revive some old ideas about becoming self sufficient in liquid nitrogen and the energy to generate liquid nitrogen. This would not necessarily have to be on the same premises, but at a location suitable for thermopiles, solar collectors, wind farms, or whatever. Most of the above pertains to maintenance costs. Costs of preparation could of course rise with the level of sophistication of procedures. CI expects to continue to offer current procedures, or better ones, at the current price. Substantially more expensive procedures may be offered as options at higher minimum prices. We may also develop methods cheaper than our current ones, such as a combination of chemical fixation and moderately cold storage. (As previously noted, this may become a social/political necessity, as well as a practical and ethical positive.) Perhaps the MOST important point--and of course this applies to some other organizations as well as CI--is that the people managing the programs are highly motivated to anticipate and prevent or fix problems. A cryonics organization lives or dies on its reputation and performance, and its patients' fates are likewise on the line. There will be the most strenuous efforts to prevent any "January thaw." None of this guarantees that a badly flawed plan can be saved, or that every potential catastrophe can be avoided; but this consideration of motivation, COMBINED with the points outlined above for CI, makes the bet a pretty safe one, in my opinion. Robert Ettinger Cryonics Institute Immortalist Society http://www.cryonics.org Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=9817