X-Message-Number: 9938
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 02:17:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: Doug Skrecky <>
Subject: 22'nd update on fly longevity experiments 

    This is the 22'nd update on my fly longevity experiments. The flies I
 used in the nineth run were quite old and decrepit before I ever started
 the run. Instead of flying, these "flies" mostly just walked slowly when
 aroused. Using older pre-aged flies is a good idea during the winter when
 low temperatures slow fly aging and prolong my runs to over 2 months.
 However during the summer old flies can die too fast, as witness the
 results with Hawthorn 4X. This increased lifespan in the eighth run, but
 this time around the flies died so fast they never had a chance to be
 exposed to this supplement. The poor result with Hawthorn 8X, I attribute
 to toxicity attendant to overdosing. I will have to redo the Hawthorn 4X
 dosage sometime to confirm its effect.
   Of the supplements tested on this run only the low dosage of Orris root
 looks mildly interesting. It exceeded the survival of both control
 bottles at all time points.
   In the meantime I will push on and test other supplements with my
 milk-bottles-on-a-card-table experiments. Thus far of the over than 100
 different supplements I have tested, I have as yet come across no big
 winners that dramatically extend fly lifespan. One always lives in hope.

  Nineth Run          NUMBER  PERCENTAGE SURVIVAL ON DAY
  Supplement         OF FLIES  7  12  17  19  24  27
  _____________________________________________________________
  Cntl 1               17     29% 24% 12%  6%  0   -
  Cntl 2               25     44  32  16  12   0   -
  Horseradish           7     29   0   -   -   -   -
  Horseradish 4X        6      0   -   -   -   -   -
  Hawthorn 4X           7      0   -   -   -   -   -
  Hawthorn 8X           6     50  33   0   -   -   -
  Myrrh                 6     17  17   0   -   -   -
  Myrrh 4X              5     60  20  20  20   0   0
  Orange peel           7     29  14   0   -   -   -
  Orange peel 4X        8     13  13   0   -   -   -
  Orris root            8     50  38  38  25   0   -
  Orris root 4X         7     29  14   0   -   -   -
  Pepper (white)        7     57  43   0   -   -   -
  Pepper (white) 4X     8     13  13   0   -   -   -
  Peppermint leaves     7     57  43  14   0   -   -
  Peppermint leaves 4X  9     56  44   0   -   -   -
  Saffron               9     33  33   0   -   -   -
  Saffron 4X           14     29  21   0   -   -   -
  Sasparilla            8     38  25  13   0   -   -
  Sasparilla 4X         7     29  14   0   -   -   -
  Savory                8     25  13  13  13  13   0
  Savory 4X            11     64  64   9   0   -   -
  Senna                10     60  30  10  10   0   0
  Senna 4X             10     70  30  10  10   0   0

  Tenth Run
  Cntl 1
  Cntl 2
  Allspice: 1/16 Tsp
  Allspice 4X: 1/4 Tsp
  Ephedrine: 6 mg (75 mg Nutrion Health & Fitness ephedra extract)
  Ephedrine 4X: 24 mg (300 mg ephedra extract)
  Henna: 1/16 Tsp
  Henna 4X: 1/4 Tsp
  Licorice Root: 1/16 Tsp
  Licorice Root 4X: 1/4 Tsp
  Mahlab: 1/16 Tsp
  Mahlab 4X: 1/4 Tsp
  Mango: 1/16 Tsp
  Mango 4X: 1/4 Tsp
  Marjoram: 1/16 Tsp
  Marjoram 4X: 1/4 Tsp
  Methyl-sulfonyl-methane: 62.5 mg (MSM is a stable DMSO metabolite)
  MSM 4X: 250 mg
  MSM 16X: 1000 mg
  Royal Jelly: 125 mg (Montana brand - in a base of rice powder)
  Royal Jelly 4X: 500 mg

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