X-Message-Number: 9938 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 02:17:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Skrecky <> Subject: 22'nd update on fly longevity experiments This is the 22'nd update on my fly longevity experiments. The flies I used in the nineth run were quite old and decrepit before I ever started the run. Instead of flying, these "flies" mostly just walked slowly when aroused. Using older pre-aged flies is a good idea during the winter when low temperatures slow fly aging and prolong my runs to over 2 months. However during the summer old flies can die too fast, as witness the results with Hawthorn 4X. This increased lifespan in the eighth run, but this time around the flies died so fast they never had a chance to be exposed to this supplement. The poor result with Hawthorn 8X, I attribute to toxicity attendant to overdosing. I will have to redo the Hawthorn 4X dosage sometime to confirm its effect. Of the supplements tested on this run only the low dosage of Orris root looks mildly interesting. It exceeded the survival of both control bottles at all time points. In the meantime I will push on and test other supplements with my milk-bottles-on-a-card-table experiments. Thus far of the over than 100 different supplements I have tested, I have as yet come across no big winners that dramatically extend fly lifespan. One always lives in hope. Nineth Run NUMBER PERCENTAGE SURVIVAL ON DAY Supplement OF FLIES 7 12 17 19 24 27 _____________________________________________________________ Cntl 1 17 29% 24% 12% 6% 0 - Cntl 2 25 44 32 16 12 0 - Horseradish 7 29 0 - - - - Horseradish 4X 6 0 - - - - - Hawthorn 4X 7 0 - - - - - Hawthorn 8X 6 50 33 0 - - - Myrrh 6 17 17 0 - - - Myrrh 4X 5 60 20 20 20 0 0 Orange peel 7 29 14 0 - - - Orange peel 4X 8 13 13 0 - - - Orris root 8 50 38 38 25 0 - Orris root 4X 7 29 14 0 - - - Pepper (white) 7 57 43 0 - - - Pepper (white) 4X 8 13 13 0 - - - Peppermint leaves 7 57 43 14 0 - - Peppermint leaves 4X 9 56 44 0 - - - Saffron 9 33 33 0 - - - Saffron 4X 14 29 21 0 - - - Sasparilla 8 38 25 13 0 - - Sasparilla 4X 7 29 14 0 - - - Savory 8 25 13 13 13 13 0 Savory 4X 11 64 64 9 0 - - Senna 10 60 30 10 10 0 0 Senna 4X 10 70 30 10 10 0 0 Tenth Run Cntl 1 Cntl 2 Allspice: 1/16 Tsp Allspice 4X: 1/4 Tsp Ephedrine: 6 mg (75 mg Nutrion Health & Fitness ephedra extract) Ephedrine 4X: 24 mg (300 mg ephedra extract) Henna: 1/16 Tsp Henna 4X: 1/4 Tsp Licorice Root: 1/16 Tsp Licorice Root 4X: 1/4 Tsp Mahlab: 1/16 Tsp Mahlab 4X: 1/4 Tsp Mango: 1/16 Tsp Mango 4X: 1/4 Tsp Marjoram: 1/16 Tsp Marjoram 4X: 1/4 Tsp Methyl-sulfonyl-methane: 62.5 mg (MSM is a stable DMSO metabolite) MSM 4X: 250 mg MSM 16X: 1000 mg Royal Jelly: 125 mg (Montana brand - in a base of rice powder) Royal Jelly 4X: 500 mg Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=9938