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# 6350 The Old Soul Question [Charles Platt]
  who is brought into an emergency room after cold-water drowning, with no vital signs--no pulse, respiration, or brain activity. There are many such cases each year who are successfully resuscitated after HOURS in this seemingly totally lifeless state. Where did their soul go during this
(Sat, 15 Jun 1996, 3 KB)
# 6254 Re: Limiting the freedom of harmless minority interests [Boris Gimbarzevsky]
  dead. Defining death is a tricky business. Brain death is favored by some people, and . . . barbiturates will put any person into this state. Intubate them, ventilate them, and they recover - take them off the ventilator in their "brain dead" state, and they're just as dead as . . . more likely, to get them into a brain-dead vegetative state where they may appear to be alive . . . not found by anyone for a few hours, they are dead, and thus "human remains". . . . in this regard - children have been revived after hours of underwater submersion in cold water.
(18 May 1996 06:42:46, 6 KB)
# 9766 FYI:CARDIAC ARREST AND RECOVERY OF NEURONAL ACTIVITY [Eugene Leitl]
  can be reversed (by cardiopulmonary resuscitation) without brain damage. However, after cardiac arrest that lasts longer, reperfusion of the brain is accompanied by delayed irreversible brain damage that occurs several days after the reperfusion of brain tissue. The post-ischemic period during which . . . that this post-ischemic period occurs even after a complete interruption of cerebral blood flow lasting up to 1 hour. ... ... Charpak and Audinat (Centre National de la . . . of the period in acute preparations of brain tissue (rat and guinea pig) prepared after a cardiac arrest of several hours and maintained in vitro. The authors report . . . preserved in situ in a particular quiescent state characterized by the absence of electrical activity
(Sun, 24 May 1998, 3 KB)
# 13304 posts on the feasibility of cryonics.... [john grigg]
  on the structural damage to cryonically frozen brain structure. Billy Brown took in my view . . . problems with overly optimistic views of how brain repair and memory restoration will be something . . . this. First off, accidents that destroy the brain > are fairly rare, so even if you . . . from arriving at a hospital within an hour or > less - just don't get yourself . . . claiming that essentially all patients are suspended after one hour or less after death has occured (not pronounced)? Don't . . . and > personality can be recovered from your brain tissue. This sentence is insoncistent. Clearly there . . . the > original information content of a scrambled brain is isomorphic to the > problem of deducing . . . claiming that essentially all patients are suspended after one hour or >less after death has occured (not pronounced)? Don't . . . reverse those transformations and recover the original state of the information. When reconstructing the mind
(Fri, 25 Feb 2000, 11 KB)
# 10368 freezer vs. blender [Ettinger]
  survival by several criteria, >> morphological and physiological, after cooling to liquid nitrogen temperature [Platt]>What . . . 243-246, 1981) cooled human and rat brain sections to liquid nitrogen temperature (10% DMSO) . . . humans who had been dead 10-20 hours, and not refrigerated until 3-5 hours after death. They were treated with DMSO up . . . 318-324, 1981) found that, for human brains, post-mortem storage for 4 and 16 hours at room temperature had little effect on . . . present is to say that whenever either brain structure or brain function has been evaluated after freezing to low temperatures and thawing, robust . . . handy. [Ettinger]>> and rewarming. Pichugin's rabbit brain pieces showed coordinated electrical >> activity in networks . . . s cat brains exhibited spontaneous electrical discharges >after rewarming--but only for a brief period, . . . damage, you would be no worse off after being put through a blender than after . . . outraged, but they were still in a state of >blissful ignorance, since they had not
(Wed, 2 Sep 1998, 8 KB)
# 0018.2 Cryonics FAQ: Part 2
  possible to slightly above 0 degrees C. After the blood has been replaced the body . . . this damage. The barbiturates they give reduce brain metabolism, as does cooling. In a well . . . activity of the nervous system, because the brain can be *totally inactivated* (emphasis added) by . . . previously stored are still retained when the brain becomes active once again. Textbook of Medical . . . Company, Philadelphia, 1986 Thomas Donaldson says that brain waves of supercooled small animals have been . . . though the animals still have their memories after they are rewarmed. He cites AU Smith, . . . include diseases that lose information in the brain, such as Alzheimer's, mental retardation, or . . . to slightly above 0 C for several hours. After rewarming and replacing the original blood, the . . . vitrification, which achieves cooling to a glassy state without the water crystallizing into ice. The
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# 25624 Fwd: The Biology of . . . Cryogenics (take 3) [Kennita Watson]
  or breathe and has no heartbeat or brain activity. In the Storeys biochemistry lab atCarletonUniversityinOttawa, . . . a frog can remain in a torpid state until spring, when its metabolism whirs back to life. It goes brain dead for a few months, then has . . . those of control frogs in a normal state, they also found unusually high levels of . . . 29.3 degrees F for about two hours, then thawed and transplanted them into other rats. Of the nine transplantees, eight survived for several hours after receiving the donor organs, and one survived
(Tue, 25 Jan 2005, 9 KB)
# 17069 NDE study not scientific [James Swayze]
  07 AM ET > Scientist Says Mind Continues After Brain Dies > By Sarah Tippit > LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - . . . evidence that suggests that consciousness may continue after the brain has stopped functioning and a patient is . . . the debate over whether there is life after death and whether there is such a . . . have a group of people with no brain function ... who have well-structured, lucid thought . . . memory formation at a time when their brains are shown not to function, Wrong, pure . . . The NDE I experienced was formulated well after the event. My immediate thoughts after being informed I had been coded were . . . stopped, he is not breathing and his brain activity is nil, Parnia said. > He said . . . prior to and immediately after the unconsciousness states. Here again no memory loss for the . . . there is usually a memory lapse of hours or days. Talk to them. They ll
(Mon, 23 Jul 2001, 13 KB)
# 26411 Boffins create zombie dogs [Joseph Bloch]
  created eerie zombie dogs, reanimating the canines after several hours of clinical death in attempts to develop . . . scientists have succeeded in reviving the dogs after three hours of clinical death, paving the way for . . . stop breathing and have no heartbeat or brain activity. But three hours later, their blood is replaced and the . . . be happy to keep people in this state for just a few hours, But even
(Mon, 27 Jun 2005, 3 KB)
# 29217 Suspending Life: The Science of Cryonics [Mark Plus]
  Science of Cryonics By Jen Schripsema Moments after death, some people are being preserved in . . . memories which are physically stored in the brain, under the assumption that in the future . . . But cryonically preserving a body, or a brain, after death doesn't actually involve freezing at . . . is referred to as a glass-like state. After vitrification, cryonics labs suspend people in liquid . . . have them come back to their original state. You can vitrify a single human cell . . . the Cryonics Institute disagree. The Alcor website states: Vitrification can happen on any scale at . . . cold climates and reach a deep, frozen state of hibernation to survive the winter. The . . . hearts stop and they have no detectable brain activity for weeks, but when it's . . . they regain all their vital functions within hours. But these animals have several adaptations to
(Fri, 02 Mar 2007, 7 KB)

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