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# 15511 Comments on Viability and Self-Repair - #15442 [Paul Antonik Wakfer]
  the 53% (now 66%) "viability" of rat brain slices by the K/Na >criterion has . . . or unreported; This is what I have stated and is the correct interpretation. >the other > . . . I do not recall where this was stated or by who. Would you please enlighten . . . dogs to be revived from over 5 hours at just above 0'C. These patient . . . has done such a test on the brain tissue of a cryonics patient prior to . . . and will need to be verified for brain tissue at some point. That, in fact, . . . for neurons would be the electrical activity. After all, Suda's old >experiments were deemed
(Thu, 01 Feb 2001, 7 KB)
# 15560 Re: Mr Ettinger's - #15541, #15543, #15546 [Paul Antonik Wakfer]
  for larger tissue masses of organs including brains. Whereas at the earlier stage only the . . . he said the 66% > "viability" of rat brain slices by the K/Na criterion was . . . more than 10 times improvement in the state of the art of cryopreservation of large, . . . formal scientific literature to our knowledge. ** Hippocampal brain slices frozen in a variety of ways . . . Suda to be optimal for cryopreservation of brains were found to yield only about 5% plus or minus 5% viability after thawing from dry ice temperature.** This shows . . . This also relates to the physiological fact (stated in medical textbooks) that nerve fibers and . . . capacity of fresh, untreated slices.** Nothing was stated about individual cells since the potassium-sodium . . . magnitude of the advance over the prior state of the art in that it is . . . ice, whereas such damage is presumably absent after vitrification and warming. Therefore, the new methods . . . the viability of vitrified/rewarmed rat hippocampal brain slices has been increased to about 66%.** . . . be sufficient for long term cellular survival after transplantation and in vivo recovery.** This is . . . with 66% cellular viability did not occur after fully reduced temperature because sufficiently fast rewarming . . . slices by culturing them for longer times after exposure to cryoprotectant to see if self- . . . times at least as long as 8 hours, there was no apparent improvement.** This again
(Mon, 05 Feb 2001, 18 KB)
# 24573 Now this is a conundrum [James Swayze]
  kept alive while in a persistive vegetative state and hold for the rights of all . . . I have highlighted by placing *** before and after. They are quite interesting when taken in . . . have the right to deanimate before a brain malady can do identity robbing damage, Jeb . . . around the country. [Begin article] Case of Brain-Damaged Woman Heads to Court 4 hours ago By JACKIE HALLIFAX, Associated Press Writer [
(Tue, 31 Aug 2004, 9 KB)
# 12367 What it will take to legalize assisted suicide [john grigg]
  t want this done except with cryonicists! After all I see cryonic suspension not as true "death" but as a state of "inactivity" where in time I will . . . from a suspension team and have my brain decay for hours or even days before I am able
(Sat, 04 Sep 1999, 5 KB)
# 7729 Suspension of Long Standing Member [Fred Chamberlain]
  this sort of outcome in the future. After Joe's wife, Terry Cannon, was suspended . . . fronts. Nearly two years ago, his doctor stated in writing that "death was imminent" (clearly, . . . weekends.) At the time Joe's doctor stated that his death was "imminent", Alcor Staff . . . of relocating would have been too great. After all, he was still able to maintain . . . combination for insuring a good cryonics suspension. After a fall from a ladder while working . . . option available. Our best hope was that after a brief period of observation and evaluation, . . . Joe had not been found until morning, after an undetermined number of hours of ischemia, his medical surrogate assumed the . . . and the appropriate official in the Florida State Attorney's office. Although an autopsy could . . . neck intact, so that perfusion of the brain could be attempted. A washout was attempted
(Sat, 22 Feb 1997, 7 KB)
# 21951 The use of entanglement [Azt28]
  as a tool used to build a brain scanner. There are yet some byproducts of . . . and height H, each is one dimensional. After, you have a surface S = L x . . . can be in the up or down state or an up-down mixing. This allows . . . The system is in a superposition of states: one is P1, P2,... all separate from . . . the entanglement. The mixing between all these states rests on the properties of the transmission . . . laser has many potential uses, from QND brain reading to powerful radiography and time keeping . . . system putting it in an exotic quantum state. A is then in the same state and exchange its entanglement with a target . . . femtosecond or so to one tick every hour or day. If now A is entangled
(Wed, 11 Jun 2003, 7 KB)
# 9462 From Mike Darwin, re Ettinger/CI [Charles Platt]
  on glycerolized and glycerolized-frozen-thawed-fixed brains (sheep). I believe Charles contacted a number . . . the methods used to prepare the sheep brains used in the study he obtained from . . . me. He has asked me to re-state the information I gave him, document my . . . who was briefly >oriented to what normal brain ultrastructure looks like. >Particularly disturbing is the absence of control photos >showing normal brain architecture in the absence of >ischemia, cryoprotective . . . any >resumption of functional indices of organized brain >activity/metabolism is completely unsupported by even . . . of the investigators to reperfuse the brains after >thawing. Recently, I re-examined the Pichugin . . . with slow (4-5 degrees C per hour cooling rate) straight freezing in our laboratory
(Sun, 12 Apr 1998, 28 KB)
# 10402 ??? [Charles Platt]
  I know a reasonable amount about the state of the art, and have proven my . . . all aspects of cryonics. I spent countless hours earlier this year trying to negotiate the . . . to cryonics, even though in its current state I fear that it is not always . . . been left sitting for, say, four days after death well above freezing temperature, with no . . . patient had been shot in the head, after which he experienced 24 hours of ischemic damage at the mortuary, and his brain was cut into pieces and placed in
(Wed, 9 Sep 1998, 6 KB)
# 6399 SCI.Trans Time newsletter 2 [quaife]
  was shown to protect the heart and brain of laboratory animals during four hours of deep hypothermia. The presentation was made . . . time for surgery on the heart and brain, during which circulation can be substantially reduced, . . . that rats subjected to partial blood substitution after fasting and severe cold stress were much . . . baths for periods of up to two hours. These animals reached deep body temperatures as . . . to consciousness and reactivity. An analysis of brain tissue immediately following revival indicated that substantial freezing and thawing of the tissues of the brain had occurred. Dr. Sternberg said "these experiments . . . and organs in frozen or partially frozen states for extended time periods may be achievable
(Thu, 27 Jun 1996, 12 KB)
# 7848 Re: timescale of cryonics & uploading [Joseph Strout]
  I find the prospect of repairing the brains > and bodies of those now frozen to be much more daunting than copying their > brains into artificial devices. " > > Is this not a contradiction? After all in order to copy a neural . . . are not so different. ;) > To copy a brain in fine detail - and to upload a " . . . copy - would need a scan of the brain almost molecule by > molecule. This would be . . . the scale of the position and phosphorylation states of individual channels etc., then you're . . . result, you may lose the last few hours or days, but not any long-term
(Thu, 13 Mar 1997, 6 KB)

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