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# 23560 Re: #23548 and #23554 'Miracle' boys defy death under the ice [Swb1948]
  were clinically dead for more than an >> hour after falling >> through ice into a frozen lake . . . death stories have >to do with cryonics. After all, when I deanimate I'm >not . . . cold water. A handful have survived an hour underwater. Labeling someone as "dead" today says . . . no more difficulty than 2 1/2 hours. "Except quantitatively, then, the problem is not . . . we do to protect the patient's brain between the point of legal death and . . . them frozen or vitrified into an unchanging state. The first priority is getting the patient'
(Sat, 6 Mar 2004, 6 KB)
# 0024 Alcor Cryonics Introduction
  is the technology for freezing a person after a terminal illness or a fatal accident, . . . many kinds of tiny cells. In the brain, for example, nerve cells pass messages to . . . cells can't continue functioning for long. After about ten minutes, they use up their . . . to cells throughout the body and the brain, protecting them from damage. At low temperatures, . . . with no heartbeat, no breathing, and no brain activity, for up to four hours. When the blood is warmed and primed . . . now believe that if a person's brain cells and brain structure are still intact, that person is . . . yet able to revive a whole mammal after it has been frozen. On the other . . . freezing and were maintained in a lifeless state for almost four hours. The dogs have
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# 23676 Answer to Charles Platt part 1 [Trygve B.Bauge]
  business of trying >to cryopreserve the human brain begins with the acts of >people who . . . goal is to achieve not just perfect brain preservation, but to restore brains and the body to youthful conditions. And . . . the case that was brought against me after I had joked about hijacking a plane . . . I guess I came to the United States a few centuries too late. No Colorado . . . attacks on the suspension of Williams either. After having annually heard about my grandfather's . . . no problems what so ever with the state health authorities in California. But since the . . . Alcor has frozen a person without a brain, and C.I has frozen a white . . . beings, we don't need a preserved brain for that. And most mental content can . . . e.g. are you the same person after a stroke? Not fully, but a person . . . own in the wilderness, or drawing some state of the art blast shelter, with the . . . turn having one of the annual business after hours at the cryonic facility, that too would
(Fri, 19 Mar 2004, 22 KB)
# 15528 Comments Re: CryoNet #15499, #15500, #15502, #15507 [Paul Antonik Wakfer]
  a chance. As I have reported before, after the first 6-9 months that chance . . . bad). Frankly, since Mr Ettinger has already stated that no differences were *seen* in specimens . . . Mr Ettinger's presumption is quite misleadingly stated as I have explained before and again . . . questions equivalent to harassment? > About cooling rates: After perfusion, CI cools slowly, using first dry . . . so there. For myself, I have repeatedly stated that if and when I need to . . . reports tell us that, with the rat brain slices, >specimens that showed 53% function by the K/Na criterion did not recover >further after hours of culturing or incubation. In other words,
(Fri, 02 Feb 2001, 16 KB)
# 27822 Man today vs. man/machine combo tomorrow [IGGY & Svetlana]
  said in terms of technological advances like brain/computer implants, telepathic transfer of thought and . . . above competition in memory, comprehension, retention, working hours or strength? - the freedom of speech and . . . he'll be taken from the cross after several hours instead of days after an anesthetic was applied to lessen the . . . help scientists learn more about the human brain. "I expect an explosion of new knowledge," . . . through this hyper-detailed study of the brain will then be applied to engineering, at which point the "brain- based industry" will boom. Rudimentary artificial intelligence . . . robots, sex robots," de Garis said. Soon after, he says, people will begin to notice . . . artificial intelligence into their own bodies and brains - becoming, themselves, cybernetic organisms, "cyborgs" or, in . . . in China in May, says the United States has been among the slowest to accept
(Fri, 7 Apr 2006, 12 KB)
# 7440 Autopsy and Unfavorable Circumstances [Mike Darwin]
  1142 Negligence by cryonics organization resulting in hours of warm ischemia and no cryoprotective perfusion. ( . . . edema due to toxoplasmosis infection of the brain. A-1055 Antemortem cerebral hypoxic insult that resulted in persistent vegetative state (PVS). A-1082 Antemortem multi-infarct brain disease that resulted in PVS-like state. A-1148 Profound pulmonary edema and antemortem . . . or gas exchange during transport resulting in hours of warm ischemia. A-1169 Hours of severe antemortem ischemia/hypoxia. A-1239 Post surgical death from cerebral edema following neurosurgery resulting in hours of severe global normothermic ischemia. Since I . . . for this classification: Jerome White: Severe antemortem brain injury from HIV encephalopathy and toxoplasmosis gondii. . . . process. Richard Marsh: Sudden cardiac death with hours of warm and cold ischemia. Andrew Epstein: . . . woman with Alzheimer's and multi-infarct brain disease. Unstabilized cardiac arrest with over a . . . in his reply is that >in five states (California, New York, New Jersey, Rhode Island, . . . conclusions which will aid in improving the state of the art. As Jim Yount of . . . far more important problem of achieving reversible brain cryopreservation. Even the best of currently employed . . . as many cryonicists would like to believe. After 25 years of delivering cryonics services in
(07 Jan 97 02:53:58, 14 KB)
# 32523 Henson's experiment [Ettinger]
  original. Instead of a succession of computer states we could have pages in a book . . . time--perhaps a standing wave in the brain--so that you (present) overlap (in space . . . muddle the concept of uploading, consider your brain being infiltrated by nano devices on the same scale as the number of cells in the brain. The devices are small enough so there . . . in specific outputs. They build a parallel brain and operate it long enough to be confident the brain in the nano devices duplicates the running . . . over forming long and short term memory. After hours to days, we warm up the natural
(Wed, 31 Mar 2010, 5 KB)
# 9460 Efficacy of CI Methods [Mike Darwin]
  Freeze-Thawing on the Structure of Glycerolized Brains of the Sheep by Mike Darwin Introduction: . . . a glycerolized, and a glycerolized frozen- thawed brain (i.e., two animals at a minimum). . . . anesthetized and cannulated in a beating heart state? Were these heads collected postmortem (i.e., after slaughter)? If the heads were removed after slaughter how was introduction of air into . . . how were they killed? In the United States and most Western countries agricultural animals which . . . voltage/amperage alternating current through the head (brain). The animals are then hoisted into the . . . in serious pre-cryopreservation injury to the brain and would be a serious source of . . . all domestic animals slaughtered in the United States and Europe undergo this kind of stunning . . . tissue "takes up" the stain or appears after staining speaks not only to the visible . . . thick were the sections cut from the brain for fixation after cryopreservation? Was the fixative warm or cold . . . minutes of warm ischemia followed by 24 hours on ice (with blood present). My *impression*
(Sun, 12 Apr 1998, 19 KB)
# 5854 SCI.Cryonics and assisted suicide [Steve Bridge]
  talking about cryonics very differently. I originally stated that: >the public is mostly confused that . . . people?" Some of them on their own state that it would be better to do . . . the >heart. I would challenge that *anybody*, after reading a description >of neurosuspension would state that the fact that the suspension was >after, rather than before clinical death, is the . . . suggest "then why not freeze just the brain" before I have even gotten to neurosuspension. . . . all of my beginning discussion, I discuss brain damage, the fact that we focus on preserving brain structure because that is where memory and . . . be the same person, but that a brain transplant is impossible. A brain gets a body transplant. (For more, please . . . severe ischemia during the last 24- 48 hours of their life. This may cause a
(Wed, 28 Feb 96, 12 KB)
# 6326 Lawsuits over ignored medical directives [David Brandt-Erichsen]
  she became incapacitated. But to no avail: After her next seizure, Ms. Young was put . . . the doctor and the hospital. ¶ Four days after an Indiana woman suffered a massive stroke that left her in a persistent vegetative state, the hospital where she was treated removed her feeding tube, after consultation with her family, including the son . . . children that he would not want resuscitation, after watching the slow death of his wife, who suffered brain damage after being resuscitated through electric shock following a . . . attention. Over the last two decades, every state has provided mechanisms for people to declare, . . . health until 1977, when she suffered a brain hemorrhage, and her doctors found that she had abnormal vessels in her brain. She began having bad headaches and increasingly . . . daughter, Chastity, married and moved out of state at the age of 17. Ms. Osgood . . . very, very loudly, for five or six hours at a time. I don't know
(Fri, 07 Jun 1996, 16 KB)

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