X-Message-Number: 9643
Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 12:06:37 +0100
From:  (John de Rivaz)
Subject: Re: CryoNet #9630 - #9641

In article: <>  
writes:
> From: "Christopher M. Rasch" <>
> Subject: Thoughts on the failure of cryonics
> References: <>
(del)
> How can one support research? 
> 
> 1) Invest in companies focused on organ cryopreservation work, like
> 21CM.

Is 21CM going to be available on a public stock market?

CryoLife <http://www.cryolife.com> is publically quoted, and has just issued 
an interesting corporate profile about is research into organ 
cryopreservation. But the organs involved are really very small parts, such 
as
* heart valves
* saphenous and femoral veins
* menisci and tendons
It also produces bioglue - the "superglue" alternative to stitches

nevertheless, it is obviously started out down a road which logically could 
lead, one day, to the cryopreservation of whole organs.

(incidentally BioTime has had a smacking in the market - the shares are back 
to $9. These stocks are not for the faint hearted!)


In article: <>  
writes:
> 	Assuming that perpetual storage of a brain or tissue sample could be
> reduced to $8,000, and $1000 respectively, you would be able to fund 62
> brains, and 100 tissue samples. 

no no no


If you have a fund that is invested and is growing at x% then you can withdraw 
annual sums of less than x% and there is no limit of 62 brains or anything else.
Instead you have $0.5m invested (in technology it should average 30% long term 
- the 50% of the last three years is unlikely to continue). You can take out 
some of the growth every year and use it to fund give-away projects and as long 
as the growth is still positive after you have taken it out this can go on for 
ever. In any year there is a fall, 

you simply do not fund projects. (If you are funding on-going research it is 
more complicated as you still have to support it if there is a bad year on the 
markets. In practise you'd probably use put options to insure peaks - this is 
what the California Technology Stock Letter recommends, anyway.)


In article: <>  
writes:
> 	If we make the prize contingent upon achieving some particular goal,
> we don't have to pay until the criteria are actually met.


Yes, and if you in the meantime have a growing fund, the value of the prize 
increases the longer it takes for someone to win it. Alternatively, you can make
the prize x% of the fund, and when it is won you still have funds left to offer
another prize for the next step on the road.

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