X-Message-Number: 33189 Subject: Re: pre-mortem suspension From: David Stodolsky <> Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 13:54:08 +0100 References: <> On 4 Jan 2011, at 11:00 AM, CryoNet wrote: > The entire cryonics community -- IN MY VIEW -- should declare > pre-mortem suspension the optimal practice, designate it the standard > of care, and campaign vigorously for the legal right to choose same. A precondition for this is accepting that a person in suspension is alive. Whenever I call them 'patients', people outside of the Movement start laughing. So, good luck. The only thing this would accomplish is firmly cementing the view that cryonicists are kooks. This kind of change will only come after cryonics is accepted as a 'burial' practice. See my Post to get an idea of how big a social change this will be: http://cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=30455 The best we can hope for at this time is to have the body washout/perfusion done in a hospital immediately after 'clinical death' is certified. However, there is no way this is going to happen without having a cryonicist in a position of influence in the jurisdiction where the hospital is located. This is one reason I want to form local groups, based upon pay-as-you-go financing. This financing will allow most persons to participate, thus making possible the critical mass needed to exercise influence locally. Depending upon the size of the jurisdiction, I have estimated that as few as 25 families could be adequate. However, this requires careful selection of the jurisdiction for level of religiosity, etc. and financial assistance, etc. to a local activist, who can organize local publicity, meetings, etc. dss David Stodolsky Skype: davidstodolsky Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=33189